It is, it’s huge and unprotected. The 15mm guns have worse ballistics and speed retention than .50cals. It is VERY limited in elevation.
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Rubbish.The USM16 is just as deadly ,should that move as well? If I had my way I would never move any vehicle in BR unless it was relatively new.
It’s a bad an unnecessary habit WT has got into.All it does is destroy line ups.
If you played as Germany would you still be complaining?
Many spaas don’t have armor, that’s no argument, and the sdkfz’s armament is very good, Its only downside is the elevation, but it’s not a big minus.
It is a big minus when it’s nearly half as much elevation as pretty much every other SPAA. Many SPAAs don’t have armor but they’re usually not a giant bathtub that is great at directing shrapnel into the gunner. Its guns are only good at short range as well.
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I play most of the nations, including Germany, and I complain, mainly that the Germans have too low BR of vechicles xD they are simply too good and most of the players of this nation are noobs.
At least the Tiger 2H should go to 7.0 or some tanks from other nations should go lower, for me it’s a joke that the regular M26 got 6.7.
How would you feel if your new favorite tank suddenly got a higher BR for absolutely nothing? There are many better machines on the same road, even in America itself.
All because US players have some skill and do something with these tanks instead of dying like the Germans.
Most SPAA is little more than a target for CAS and that is why so many people dont bother to play it.You also need a map with cover to use it so it is not always present.
Maybe you dont read the fourm much but the idea that CAS ruined a good tank game is too common and so is the call for SPAA at all BRs.
I am all for free speech but I really think you are wasting your time with this one.
The whole idea that we should only play bad vehicles at a disadvantage is also extremely annoying.So we have good SPAA at 3.3 great ,well we play many of those games in a full uptier too so what then?
That is the point I am making.Leave it alone.Stop raising BR for no reason other than popularity.
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Flying vehicles bothered me more on MBT 8.3-TOP. I understand your point and they should just finally introduce a tank-only mode and that’s it. Something that should have happened a long time ago, after all, we can’t go into air battles and sleep in a spaa.
I just want some balance in this game, the same with the T20 which has already been changed 10 times for the worse, this vehicle should be at 6.0 and no higher and they keep moving it up, the same M26, jumbo, M18, aubl 74 or Is-2. The br changes for the tiger and panther were justified because they are good tanks, but M26? For me it’s a good vehicle, but without exaggeration…
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So you’ve just admitted you have little to no battle awareness…
Well, that’s not the vehicle’s issue, is it?
BTW I so much defend this super-OP vehicle because I love to abuse it…
Oh, wait…
Whopping 30 spawns in it, not to mention the other humiliating stats…
You’ve got it… :)
Yet, you’re complaing about an SPAA that can’t even defend itself from attacks from above. If we’re noobs, what does it say about you, then? ;)
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I just haven’t played it much, if you want I can improve these statistics soon ;)
And it’s a stock vehicle, without he or ap belt, you can write whatever you want xD
oh sorry those were your stats xD
skill issue
The next thing he’ll be complaining about is that the Maus is OP. Typical US noob player.
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These are not my statistics XD
Typical german noob players.
I want balance but if a vehicle is the same BR for years then we can presume it is balanced. The game is in serious trouble if that is not the case.No wonder the game always has the scaffolding up,always tinkering ,never feels finished or properly working.
Leave all the things like vehicles and maps alone if they are old and move on to the areas that really are broken.
I just don’t believe we should be punished for owning good vehicles.I use the 252/21 to break CAS dominance instead of whining about CAS as I once did.You can keep your CAS and we will keep our SPAA.
if you think you will get an free meal from us all in GRB you are mistaken.That is the correct attitude to take as far as I can see.If more people had it we would not need CAS to be nerfed to death.
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“Leave all the things like vehicles and maps alone if they are old and move on to the areas that really are broken.”
Not anymore, if the BR of M26 or other vechicles were destroyed, now they have to repair it.
It just creates a chain reaction or means something is put out elsewhere.
Look at the DCA. Got moved so badly that it became useless for fast props and left a big gap for France that the DCA was intended to fill in the first place.Like one dev trod all over another devs work.And the maps…Why?
3 years of playing and they were the same mostly.What was so bad that they lasted 3 years before being destroyed?
Most vehicles in this game get BR raises because they become popular but it does not make the gun better or the armour thicker.
Look at the British Comet.Fine at 5.3 for years,then for some reason people used it a bit and it got moved to 5.7.Same vehicle,nothing about it changed.
So everybody stopped using it as it fitted no line up and guess what? they had to drop it back to 5.3.Pathetic,Pointless and that sums War Thunder up.
Suggestion of mindlessly uptiering does make me a little angry,not rage like on the forum but overall.Things like the Fox ,OK that needs to find it’s place ,it’s new but old stuff? Why?
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True, same with T-34-85 D5T from 5.3 to 5.0 and back to 5.3. But M26 should go back to 6.3, there are many better vehicles on 6.7.
In general, they should focus on sending higher vehicles that have HEAT shells, not normal tanks.
The same with howitzers, such as 2S1, 2S3M, M109 and others will cope with higher BRs.
It’s also funny that vehicles from the 1960s are on WW2 era.
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They actually did massively nerf the APDS and the reload rate of the Comet.
Well, like the Comet, there were buffs and nerfs between those changes. Originally was 5.3 with the same turret armor as the 5.7 T-34-85, which was then nerfed to 53 mm all around, leading to the decrease. Then they reworked the visual model and armor model, which made the turret armor over 100 mm effective at the front. And so it went back to 5.3.
Then they dropped it back down ?
I think the reload rate nerf came before but if I recall right the APDS nerf showed up with the APDS changes when it was 5.7. In general the Comet’s APDS was easily the most nerfed APDS out of all of them. Mostly because it was overperforming massively before the APDS changes with the new calculator.
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If you can’t deal with a large open-top SPAA, which has a gargantuan blindspot, then this applies:
Others have no issues destroying that vehicle, including me with my
I guess this is the same bullet as on the Centurions? Generally speaking, this is probably historically correct because the Comet probably had a shortened barrel, so it has a little less penetration.
I noticed these changes, the same in the T-50 whose armor was changed and reduced, but it seems that when I look at the game now, this d5t has better turret armor than the zis version, 120-300mm XD
