and then there is the dquestion why should like early cold war tanks spot more targets than IFV´s… you can just balance it with other methods like active spot time reduction in the drone view or just make the drone IVF´s move up in br…
yep fixing it would be great, but then you have to find a fine line between spotting someone who stands like 90%behind cover and you dont get the pixel of the tank at like 1.5km and spotting through like half the city
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absolutely. i already posted some ideas that might (or might not) adress this:
you could also remove the ability to use squadmarker from drones, show scouts only on the minimap, theres numerous approaches that could help.
Now we can scout directly from drones. Let that sink in again for a second.
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my current Ideas are for fixing it:
-give the glasses like a 5-10second cooldown after leaving the drone sight(drone map is no helpful for moving targets)
-make a seperate spotting for drones which spots relatively fast but has only a short spot duration
-adjust maybe the br with the IFV´s so there is a tradeoff between the light and medium tanks
And some of your ideas I would 100% support like the scoutmarker staying on the possition where the enemy was scouted…
I just do not like the idea of drones are being added just for being worse at spotting than early cold war tanks
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also valid ideas. theres another full thread of ppl brainstorming about scouting in general… some dev at gaijins could put a thought or two into that…
How do you mean?
I like the concept of having more intel on the enemies with drones and sharing it with the team, but I also know the state which it was like 1-2weeks ago was ridicolous…
yeah ofc its nice to have more mechanics in the game so theres more vehicles that can be used in different ways and have more variety/possibilities of how to play. Half the team scouted or certain players permascouted the whole match (basically without counterplay) and playing arcade 2.0 obviously is not it.
what was different then?
just the amout of tanks you could spot(~half the map(did it a few matches))
so if they decreased the time you cant spot as many in the same time(thats my main point)
it has always been like that no?
no the amout of targets you can spot is decreased with the increased cooldown so its less effective than normal spotting in some scenarios
i know but that was introduced with the patch and ONLY if you have your drone up. Not two weeks ago.
forgot the exact date of the update mb
No problemo. already wondered if i missed another change before that xD
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It should’ve been punished from the start.
If you can punish it you might as well just change it. Are you the punisher or what
Have the feeling your idea steers into a spotting mechanic thats close to what armored warfare had/has
I think in general that every spot, no matter from who, should stay active till it got spottet on a mew position. (Updated position)
It makes no bloody sense that the last seen position stays only active for a few seconds… that first of all is super unrealistic and second its just not a good design. People already struggling with reading the map, why make it harder with this system that is in place since the beginning for no reason.
the update change was mostly due to too many spots making it too op. If player cant comprehend what they see its not my fault. and you also see the spotted targets on your screen not only on your map…
Oh damn only now i think i get your original point. Yeah cold war tanks having drones is kinda dumb in the first place and then this technology which is 10s of years newer than the actual tank using it is less effective (in terms of amount of ppl it can scout per time) than the tank using it. The way the mechanic is implemented now, there should only be modern (or semi modern tanks like 2a4 era maybe and newer) being able to use modern state of the art drones especially with ability to scout directly with them. Which could also be somewhat of a solution. Remove the ability for brs lower than maybe 10.0 or something that makes sense and somehow find a solution so scouting your own or allies squadmarker doesnt work (at least that reliably) anymore?
Yes I dont want tanks from the 70´s etc. to havescouting drones(if they arent in service anymore).
You shouldnt have a longer cooldown to spot with drones than spotting without a drone(hope this clears it now).
Br capping(wasn´t meant in my first statement) would be good if you decrease the cooldown of the drone spots, but just keep in mind that the most modern newly implemented tanks can be at 9.7(just look at japan´s IVF´s.) and putting them at 11.0 would also be kinda sad bc the IFV´s there have spikes(missiles that can be fired from cover).
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Stupid air units actually ruin so many ground vehicles, now flanking is near impossible, everything is forced head-on cqc because there is no point sneaking around. Welcome to Arcade 2.0, maybe merge both the gamemode together so we can stop splitting the playerbase? hehe
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