USA is #1 air nation so that would be silly.
AAM-4 has more range.
based on what
False and coping. 9M in your preferred gamemode is FAR superior to the R73 in most cases (R73 is only better in short range dogfights where the 9M would not kinetically be able to make the shot…)
Don’t recall seeing this anywhere.
But it even if that was to be true, Pl12 pulls harder, aam4 has a bigger warhead against multipathers, and (at least for statshark) their time to target is borderline the same at various altitudes and ranges.
So my point still stands, they’re both interchangeable and both are better than the amraam
AAM-4 has the same range as the AIM-120A/B. At longer ranges the AAM-4 impacts usually within a second of the 120.
I was under the impression the PL-12 didn’t have amraam range.
USA is #1 only because variety
No, I refer to the USA having overall the strongest airforce for air RB in game, with a significant percentage of their planes being undertiered or otherwise preferenced, usually due to the american tech tree’s extremely large playerbase which dwarfs all over trees. That playerbase’s inability to play… effectively… is what made the tree what it is. It’s especially bad in props.
Why not show your real user? Scared of another forum ban right?
Cause it has a lot of planes.
If we are talking top tier ARB, the Eurofighter or the Rafale is better than all the American top tier, which includes the F-15C/E, F-16C, F/A-18C and throw the F-14B in there just for the sake of it.
Now, does Germany have as many aircraft at as many BRs, similar to the U.S? No. Would i rather OVERALL play U.S.? Yes, but you can’t say that America is #1 just because of that. There are people that only play top tier, and even then U.S is in the Top #3
No correlation.
I said tree. Rank 1-8.
I am rating the entire tree.
Aight. Yea. You have a point then
All are giga nerfed with gimped fms, only the trashy radars are accurate. They handhold the frogs more in air now for some reason, not even the f5s/f16s received as much handholding as the rafale
How is ussr nerfed?
It has the only fox 3 that has both close and long range performance
R73 is great too and if something the 9m feels hella inconsistent and even in its good time its not hard to evade
Yeah. Much like Aim-120. 9Ms were good when people didn’t really know what they are doing but people have become a lot more confident and now they defend with ease usually. You can tell when someone is inexperienced and I do sometimes pick a premium player over a TT aircraft to fire an aim-9M at because they tend to struggle a lot more. But they’ve lost a lot of their initial potency and I would love to see them get a few buffs. Like lock range increases and maybe making their IRCCM work in front aspect
based on what
Based on my experience with the Eurofighter Gripen and F15, why?
Exaggerating a fair amount there, even statshark puts the MICA at the level (or below) of R-77 in TTI beyond ~25km shots in a co-alt launch. Statshark also doesn’t model the MICA having constant server wiggle increasing the drag (and therefore TTI). MICA slaps within 15km and is basically the best below that, but MICA TTI isn’t always the best for short to medium range. Long range with MICA is also, impossible due to hard 50km limit of flight distance.
Rafale is super strong but you don’t need to exaggerate the capabilities it has. There have been situations where I’d actually rather be able to “go fishing” with the EF2000’s better range when compared to Rafale. Should also note that if you kinematically defend, the MICA will suffer due to the bad energy retention it has. AIM-120 doesn’t have any issues with that. Even in “close-medium range” launches R-77 and AIM-120 almost always have higher speed at impact compared to MICA.
Even with Aim-120C5s. I rarely fire past 40km. 30km is my usual go to launch point. and even then, they rarely hit. So… I really dont see this being any issue
Can you name another missile that has equal seeker performance?
Another that can do 90° off-boresight shots?
MICA EM is by far the best in game right now and anyone claiming otherwise, imo, is just trying to get buffs for the MICA to make the Rafale even more OP. As it stands, the Rafale should loose its 2x extra MICA slots it got from the Indian Rafale to better balance the airframe.
The only people you kill past 10-15km usually are people AFK. Though i’ve had Aim-120C5s defeated at 5km in headon shots dozens of times.
Aim-120s ONLY strength is a longer theoretical range, but Id give up Aim-120C5s instantly for something better. They are probably still one of the weakest ARH missiles in game because their only strength is pointless whilst they can be defeated by simply turning
R-77-1. It has the lowest TTI and excellent agility. Even from a dogwater launch (600km/h, 2km lower) it’ll hit an enemy firing at them with MICA or AIM-120 (in a better launch, 1200 to 1500 km/h) before their missile is anywhere near the Su-30.
Su-30 is more than capable of bullying a MICA user just by forcing them to defend constantly until you get on their tail. 12 missiles means you can launch in small intervals and force the enemy to never turn their nose even within 90 degrees of you.
I have gotten F-15E players who were tunnel visioned at 40+. Better players will defeat your missile but even mediocre players get distracted or tunnel visioned and fall to AIM-120 at long distances. If you have the right angle, you can launch at 45km into the path the enemy is defending towards and get kills on people notching (or trying to).
The bad HOBS performance is the balance keeping some planes down, if it wasn’t so terrible for AIM-120C then the EF2000 would be way more of a pain to deal with.
Yeah, and I bet the instant you have to try and use MICA against someone ~7km away in a tail chase you’ll wish you had AIM-120C. Did I mention how the MICA also regularly (for me at least) will “hit” enemies without dealing meaningful damage? Pretty much never had that issue with AIM-120. Kills would get stolen but most players hit would at least be incapable of fighting.
Edit: I’m all for AIM-120A, B and C seekers getting better notch gates, by the way. At least then their niche of “best from range” will be further cemented. But then other missiles that are just really bad (Derby comes to mind) will also need their seekers buffed.
Uh… Was chasing someone earlier with The Typhoon with Aim-120C5s, the target was 7km and out of range… So…
Aim-120C5 as well… Happens to me all the time.
And imo. With all the EFT nerfs. THe Rafale is still the better of the 2 aircraft and the Rafale has a loadout it never used whilst the Typhoon is stuck with artificially nerfed weapons
these parameters make the mica and possibly even amraam have a faster time to target.
Also yea sure, R77-1 can also be launched 90° high off bore sight, but not to the same level to the rafale, especially when the rafale’s irst has a gimbal of 180° meaning that you can always stay in the notch, lock someone with HMS IR, switch to normal HMD and fire in rapid succession.
Sure, the same thing can be done with the su30, but not to the same extent since the gimbal of the su30’s HMD is only 70° (irst has even less).
no, as i stated above, the rafale can and will shoot at 90°.
no, because when the rafale gets to speed, it gives the mica an insane kinematic upgrade to the point that the various issues of the missile such as high drag and low range will simply be nullified.
Happens very rarely to me, but that’s because the warhead of the mica is probably the weakest out of all fox 3s
me firing a 9M and the 9M decides to gain sentience and pull a sharp left to ignore the target I fired it at
meanwhile R-73’s just becoming its inner german main and tunnel visioning what its shot at