I’m following these kinds of posts about missiles and jets for 7 years now and it is interesting. Though it gets heated sometimes when certain people’s beliefs come in.
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Look everyone it’s John MICA.
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I agree on this, the Aim-174 is into the area of atmospheric skipping for more range, not really able to be put in the same boat as stuff like the meteor
IMO that is because the meteor (or airbreathing missiles in general) fills a niche that those countries dont have.
For medium/short range, the cheaper solid fuel missiles are significantly better if you compare price to performance.
For medium/long range, the TDR provides the advantages in range and high energy at the end of the burn, but at a higher cost.
Meanwhile for very long range missiles a conventional solid fuel motor makes sense again, as you want it to fly an almost ballistic trajectory to get max range out of the missile.
I would argue that European airforces can not justify the cost of researching and producing two seperate missiles (even more so in the early 2000s), but still dont want to be stuck at a range disadvantage of only having medium range missiles.
The US, China and Russia already have the very long range capability, as well as the cheap medium range, meaning they simply dont have any need for a more expensive TDR missile, hence why none of them actually have it.
At least that is my theory.
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but there is a bottlenect, meteor accelerate very slowly to conserve fuel so at ranges where amraam can reach optimally the amraam will get there quicker than meteor, meteor tops out at 40km+shots because the evarage speed diff between amraam or any solid motor missile and meteor become huge, sorry for the bad explanation, but shortly meteor at 35km+ wins against every solid missile, we are kinda ready for it if 250km maps become standard at 15.0
I think this is what you mean:
AMRAAM accelerates faster at the start making it top out above the Meteors cruising speed before going back down below it.
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yes so in principle at short, initial acceleration phase meteor would have one of the worst impact times, i kinda look forward to it, and might come in november
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i think that graph might not be fully accurate with how the meteor behaves in reality, theres enough evidence to believe that it should accelerate faster than that in the first 2.5 - 2.0s seconds of flight when the booster is active, possibily accelerating faster than the amraam in that part of the flight
I mean, it’s a graph from MBDA, i don’t think we’re going to find anything better than that.
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Of course they fix the Mig 35 MAW right away but still leave us hanging…
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Really starting to be hard to pretend it isn’t malice.
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we’ll see in 5 weeks what gaijin plans, but in ny opinion in current gameplay new fox 3s eouldnt be any broken, fox2s instead would be a nightmare
I hope they turbo fix all the Gripen E’s problems and get it ready to compete against 5th gens because the plane is fun af, and the aircraft itself is capable of it. The problem is that right now it can’t because of missing modeling and bugs, typical Gaijin
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They need to fix its Fm first before making any changes on other sections.
Right now it performs way worse than JAS39A/C model in game while it should be same if not better.
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That turbo fix would only come in form of JAS39E (late) or other bs
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It would only come if Gaijin gives anyone else the Gripen, Gripen A bugs? Ignored all focus went to the ZA Gripen over the swedish one. Did Gripen A get It’s MFD? No, did the Gripen C for the UK get theirs? Yes. It’s just kinda how it goes
Look at when AGM65G went to the Gripens did Sweden get it first no. We got it two weeks after ZA because Britain was more important
I’ve even had to argue with forum mods who spread the idea that Sweden got AGM65G first and joked about swedish bias lmao.
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I know all that unfortunately. Realistically what I mentioned is the only option for us for the time being
Sweden getting placed behind Britain, that’s how you know it’s bad
Seems like the Gripen got its Tarus capability much faster than expected
Well it’s what gripen is known for, very quick integration and validation because critical systems are kept separate and don’t need re-validation after integration.
That image is however of the C version :/