Russian top tier tanks need a fair buff

This.

@Flanker_Thunder
All statshaming does as a reader is give the opposing party legitimacy.
Going positive or negative doesn’t make your opinions any more or less valid.
Someone that isn’t as skilled as others at the game can easily spot and call out OP vehicles.
And a god at the game can be blind to OP vehicles.

It also derails discussion…

its really isnt

congrats

T-90M: bad reload, bad shell, 2 Gen thermals, bad reverse, deadly autoloader (weakspot), relies too much in ERA.
T-80BVM: bad shell, meh reverse, even more deadlier autoloader (weakspot), relies too much in ERA too.

even more, T-90M is lacking multiple things rn, just like 3rd Gen thermals or it’s respective APS.

it really is, it says a lot about how much that person knows about what he’s talking.
it’s ez to die in a match, getting lots of kills isn’t.

u have negative K/D in most russian tanks, and u’re saying they’re good? if they’re good then u shouldn’t have bad stats on them, cuz in ur words they’re extremely OP and don’t deserve a buff, while u have horrible performance on them.

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because?

if i had to choose between two different doctors opinion, where doctor 1) has solved thousand of cases succesfully and doctor 2) has solved only a handful of cases succesfully, im going with opinion of doctor 1).

same logic applies here. your stats are merely a translation of how well you understand game.

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t90m: amazing armour weird volumetric with the ERA and breech good gun handling 3bm60 is a good shell so thats just odd but other statements sure there valid

t80bvm: good shell meh reverse deadly autoloader (stil doesnt always ammo rack) good mobility amazing gun handling decent reload speed and weird volumetric breech

because there stats from years ago? you dont have to be an E-sports player to have knowledge on the game

Volumetric armor is weaker than non-volumetric armor due to no overlapping plates. ERA ain’t that.
And volumetric rounds buffed heavy tanks more than all other tanks.

And T-80BVM’s breech only matters if you’re stock grinding, otherwise its entire turret where ERA isn’t placed is lol-penned by L27A1 to M829A2.

true.

for example player doesnt have to be E-sports player to accurately describe JA37Di RWR as terrible.

but if player cant get KD over 1 with JA37Di when the global average with said aircraft is above 1, question should be asked whenever said player knows how to play it.

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after the ammount of games ive played in the cr2s l27a1 cant really lolpen a bvm with the trunnion and its happened so many times i dont really go for the breech much anymore

T-90M
amazing armor: only if u don’t know how to aim, which would be rare at TOPTIER.

weird volumetric with the ERA and breech: in my life i have seen volumetric in a russian tank with exceptions like IS-2 and other WW2 tanks, just like any other tank in the game, this is not especifically something that happens to Russia. i could tell u how multiple times i have survived in my M36 just cuz the breech is so goddamn big it absorbs all the damage.

good gun handling: like any other toptier tank? Leopard 2A4M has better gun handling and it’s a NATO tank.

3BM60 is a good shell: not as good as DM53/M829A2, which are way better in all aspects.

T-80BVM
good shell: same shell as T-90M.

meh reverse: 11km/h is not comparable to 28-38km/h from most NATO tanks, tho it’s better than Proryv’s reverse, is still a bad reverse.

deadly autoloader (still doesn’t always ammo rack): that’s a skill issue and a lack of knowledge from ur part. ammo and autoloader are 2 separated things. u can hit the autoloader and not the ammo, which doesn’t mean “russian bias” or that “russian tanks are better”, it’s just poor aiming.

good mobility: not gonna doubt that, it’s a very light tank with an engine as strong as the one found in the stock Leopards.

amazing gund handling: again, like any other toptier tank? Leopard 2A4M has better gun handling.

decent reload speed: tho u can still get out-reloaded by manual loading capable tanks, u need an Ace crew to do that, so yeah it has decent/good reload speed.

weird volumetric breech: trunnions, same case for T-90M.

so u’re talking about tanks u haven’t touched since years.

u don’t have to be a fish to breath under water.

You’ve never needed to go for the breech:


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shooting between the ERA or below the ERA in a knife fight is a huge gamble but yes it can pen there

WT players looking for near and far away targets
so it’s easier to shoot there from far away than in a close engagement?

If you can hit the Abrams turret ring, you can hit the non-ERA part of BVM’s turret even easier.

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russian autoloaders do seem to have unlisted extra armor plates around autoloader for increased survivablity.

as recently as this dev, T-72M1s did recieve another armor plating around autoloader

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how can a 10mm armor plate around the autoloader “increase the survivability”? u’re hitting it before hitting the ammo, which means it will get ammo racked anyway if u aim correctly.

u aren’t hitting the ammo rack of a Leopard 2A7V from it’s side without destroying the blowout panel first.

catching spall?