Yo chill, no need of disrespecting the superior NATO tanks.
the t80bvm has better armour than every nato tank except the 2a7 and 122s
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Post was amended to include the steel type of 2A4M’s trunnion.
Glad you and I are on the same page.
completely ignoring it faces Leopard 2A7 and 122
and worse survivability than them at the same time, lol.
at the moment germanys mostly being put with russia for some reason but obviously its gonna face them??? doesnt really change much about what i said
Thats not how it works, especially against M829A1 and at that angle.
Yeah its cheap solution thats doesnt even half of the actual composite effectiveness in most angle and cases.
They unstabilize kinetic rounds at certain angle and speed which would only work under perfect conditions, this case wasn’t among them.
Russia depends on ERA too much cause they can’t increase their tanks armor effectiveness without redesign them heavily.
this being ur only excuse makes ur argument even less valid than it already was.
No it doesn’t.
Refer to the above.
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T-80BVM “better armor” lol
The upper front plate of a tank isn’t the entire tank.
There’s the LFP, the side armor that’s relevant in close quarters, and the turret.
And the T-80B’s turret… well, there’s a reason T-80B and T-80UD are both 10.7 despite the latter not having thermals.
Now, if you made that claim about T-90M, more believable.
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idk how this is an argument its just my experience also i never said the 2a7 and 122 dont face russia
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Statshaming others instead of addressing their arguments isn’t the way to do things.
what else do u want me to do if this guys has negative stats on everything he touches?
you know your losing an argument when u start statshaming
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It’s also against forum rules.
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i have been answering to ur blatant arguments the moment u started saying russian tanks are good.
the fact u don’t have actually good stats in ur russian tanks while saying they’re good says a lot about how rotten ur brain is after hearing a lot of people saying they’re good and how the popular opinion has invaded ur mind when they’re actually some of the worst tanks ingame.
CAS? yes really good
tanks? not at all.
also 27 kills and 9 deaths in the black night on my most recent session isnt terrible + russia was my first ever ground nation when i knew NOTHING about ground so obviously the k/d isnt gonna be great ive nuked in the t80uk multiple times
tell me how there some of the worst tanks in the game
yeah ofc, and u played +700 battles in the T-72AV (TURMS-T) when u knew NOTHING about ground, i doubt if u can play 700 battles and learn nothing.
i have nuked twice in the T-62M-1 and 1 in the Tiger II, good for u nuking in the UK.
im not agreeing with him but bringing up someones stat in balance discusion is entirely valid thing to do.
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