War thunder players and date experiences lol
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You know.
People do like to lie about size in both cases.
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Oh trust me, i know.
" . It can also be explained as how a person feels towards something."
It literally can be changed when you play a tank mate, you’re feelings on it will inevitebly change if you play it
That means your preception of it will change lol
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1 yes your English is bad you literally proved with your definition of perception that how you “feel” towards the small weak points will change if you use the vehicles.
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2 I am an English teacher, I have read what you said as well as what you responded to and their response isn’t to saying “the weakpoints suddenly get bigger” if you use them.
That merely the feeling of them being so small disappears due to how often you get popped in them.
You rather than get uptight should really learn how to use the correct words in situations lol.
also as per the Oxford Dictionary
Perception : an idea, a belief or an image you have as a result of how you see or understand something
Which means, your perception of the weakspots would very much or could very much change if you bothered to use the vehicles mentioned.
Relevance to the topic?
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My perception whether russian weakspots are smaller than on other tanks does not change if i play any since its a completely objective observation based on physical size.
My perception of the impact of the size of the weakspots might but that was not the topic in the slightest. Youre completely adding a second layer that was not part of the discussion. But no problem, ill just say visual perception next time to make it easier for you.
And yeah im getting uptight if people cant even be assed to do the slightest bit of reading before commenting.
yeah ofc because necron cant be assed to read anything either. When you actually read the comment and the one before then its very clear that its about physical size not whatever the impact of the size is.
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Dont ask me, I wasnt the one that started to talk about percieving smaller things as bigger.
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No your perception of it very much can change based on if you use them or not as the definition states lol.
What even lol you’re the one who said and I quote “ok so playing russian tanks changes my perception or what?” so No I’ve not added a secondary layer to it.
Necron literally told you “yes” in response to the aformentioned question.
You realise if you leave a vague as hell statement sitting then it’s not the readers fault for miss interpreting your statement, it’s entirely you’re own doing.
As well as that if you want to say, they physically wont change size.
then say that Don’t say that your perception will or wont change if you use the tanks.
I’ve read, as I said all of it lol the last however many hundred from my last interaction.
Says the man who stated
"ok so playing russian tanks changes my perception or what?
Which in of itself changes the direction of the conversation to how you will “feel” or “percieve” said weak points if you actually bother to use the vehicles.
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Jesus christ its not vague as hell if you read the comment or the one before. The entire comment line is about size. Why on gods green earth would that suddenly change towards my feeling about the weakspots. Perception is not just the psychological definition, its a broad term describing the entire process of gathering information and the best translation for the corresponding word in my mother language. If its unclear to you maybe ask whats meant instead of going completely besides the point.
And my answer to Necron should have made it even more clear that the discussion is about visual perception and not whatever you interpret into the discussion from the sideline
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russian tanks are the only tanks at top tier where the breech isnt a weakspot and dont tell me the drivers port is a weakspot you get volumetric half the time. also relikt is to stop apfsds at an angle not dead side on and ive had a shot do nothing dead side on more often than not on t90ms and t80bvm also gaijin wont add anti ERA tipped darts but add 220mm kinetic protection on russian ERA which just doesnt seem fair
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AGain read it.
Your comment is quite literally a vague open ended question related to and I quote "ok so playing russian tanks changes my perception or what?
How is that not a vague question.
Changes your perception to how those small weakspots actually feel?
If you wanted to actually refer to the physical size of said weakspots then you have to re-write your sentence mate.
You should say, “will using them change how I perceive the physical size of them” or something to that effect.
Because and I’ll say this once more here
Your use of perception in the open ended question, is not related to size in the manner you have used it, as you didn’t refer to it at any point, you just said “ok so playing russian tanks changes my perception or what?”
This leaves no reference to the perception of the aformentioned weakspots.
Again the use of the language is hugely important.
2 points, one you shouldn’t use your mother language as a basis for reference in another language, direct translations or definitions change depending the language to langauge.
two, the definition I sent you is the B2 definition, not the psychological reference of it.
The C1 definition is
the way you notice things, especially with the senses, again neither refer to the literal “gather of information” which is not what perceptions is in British English.
Or, and I say this sincerely without malice, try not use words which maybe you don’t know how to use properly, or which don’t translate across properly.
Or simply keep it quite literal.
I if you actually bothered to read properly my response explains what he was trying to say.
No one is saying said weakpoints will somehow metamorph and change size, we’re saying that through using the vehicles it’ll change how you percieve them.
I can guarantee you that if you’d not used the word perception here he would not have responded with “yes”.
Is that comment vague? No. So maybe instead of going into a tirade about me not having a quick peek into the oxford dictionary just use those little arrows in every comment and your english skills to read a bit into the discussion before tearing into one singular comment thats misunderstood. Dont worry ill use visual perception next time or a better fittting word so you guys dont need to lose your head over doing a bit of reading.
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That comment isn’t no.
No one said that it was, however your use of perception in that comment completely changes the narative of the conversation, that is how language works.
The comment which uses perception in it, completely from being related to the physical size of said weakspots, to how you feel about them which again, the previous comment to that, slighting you for not having used them is also insuating.
Again, use your ability to read I stated that I’ve read down from the last comment I made which was maybe 100 or so back.
Or you can just say “will using the tanks change the size of the weakspots”.
Keep it simpler for yourself.
Oh cool all the tanks that do not have any additional protection to their autoloading system are getting buffs. I used to like playing 10.0 all the tanks felt kind of balanced but now T-72A are just going to absorb shots from the side like their higher tier cousins.
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Didn’t know the Type 90 was Russian…
Also didn’t know that 300mm [270 for T-90M, and 375 for Type 90] of armor constituted non-weakspot when surrounded by armor of >500mm.
Also you don’t need anti-ERA darts to deal with T-80BVM… lol
“I need Vacuum to deal with Abrams!”
I know you’re probably referring to something else, but this fact that perception impacts things is why T-80BVM’s weakspots look larger to me in my optics than Abrams weakspots do, because therre’s less other material present on a T-80 than an Abrams.
It’s also why Leopard 2A5+'s weakspots look the smallest despite being about the same size as T-90M’s.
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No it’s not they chose not to model it.
A tanks turret is a large piece it needs a substantial drive motor/hydraulic system.
pen and volumetric dont have much to do with eachother a lot of the time u hit the drivers port it non pens for some stupid reason and anti-era darts would be nice considering lets see you can ufp a challenger a leclerc an abrams a leopard (other than the 2a7 and 122s) an ariete (expected) a merkava a type 10 (also expected) and uh not a bvm or 90m cause of relikt and there weakspots are MUCH smaller than nato vehicles also what problem do you have with the type 90? its already a 1 shot kill from everywhere AND its getting a turret basket
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It only does, because you chose to completely ignore any context whatsoever and just assume that i for some reason change what i was talking about. Perception does not only refer to what youre feeling about something, it can also be just mean reaction to sensory stimulus.
Okay i changed the initial comment, you can save your teacher tirade for your pupils and annoy them with it.
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Volumetric rounds bouncing off of overlapping plates of ERA containers, and different armor plates, as well as “roofs” of armor [tracks, covers, and hull roofs] is a universal thing among all tech trees to varying degrees. Easily explained by a failure in the aiming process.
Also it’s you that has the problem with the Type 90 according to your post. Its breech is [at least marginally] stronger than T-90M’s, thus complaining about Soviet tank breaches not being weakspots is an implication that you have issues with Leopard 2A4M [though 2A4M’s trunnion is still structural steel], Abrams, Type 90, and other tanks that received buffs to their breaches and trunnions.
I’ve already reported Leclerc’s UFP, as well as others. We’ve done our part to correct that tank.
BVM’s lolpenned in the turret by top rounds.
And T-90M has a mobility reduction compared to top tanks in War Thunder, and that’s with MBTs universally over-performing in mobility to varying amounts.
The edits added the words in brackets, fixed a linguistic error at the end of paragraph 2, and fixed a spelling mistake.
You really don’t understand that the way you used perception is what changed the context no?
Also perception : the way you notice things, especially with the senses C1
Example : Everyone’s perception of reality is slightly different.
an idea, a belief or an image you have as a result of how you see or understand something B2
Example : There is a general public perception that standards in schools are falling.
the ability to understand the true nature of something C1+
examples : * She showed great perception in her assessment of the family situation.*
They have little perception of how ordinary people live their lives
Again so how you “Perceive” : “to understand or think of somebody/something in a particular way”, is how you interperate, and feel about it.
So again, not related to the gathering of information nor how one sees the size of an literally piece of equipment.
Now take this information and be quiet, go use a russian tank and come back to us about how you “know” about them .