Russian top tier tanks need a fair buff

[An_Pigeon]

@BabySoEz

and what’s new? at least 10.3 still has a slight chance not to get up-tiered

Not really man, it’s sucked into a black hole usually lol.

I know that from using 11.3 quite alot with the merakvas

@Flanker_Thunder

when F-15A was dropped, Su-27 was dominating the skies.

It wasn’t mate at all.
Gripen was by a huge marging then F15A, F15J and then the 16A lol.
Su27 was barely top 5.

the only thing which held the F15 back was the folks not knowing it’s potential, which can even be seen in defyns videos from the time xD
Folks saying it was bad in the chat but instead it was them that was the issue.

@Flanker_Thunder

i doubt if a plane that’s literally made to accelerate can out-turn a plane that’s literally made to turn

that was te point when it released the F15A IRL is and was a missile bus and in game the F15A dogwalked the Su27 in dogfights and the Su27 was a missile bus.

again , DEFYNs videos on both from the time show that, as well as the fact I had the F15A at 12.3 and know it was horrifically under BR’d.

@Flanker_Thunder

depends how u spend them, a good toptier player will not spend 96CM per match.
however i admit having more countermesures is a nice advantage, but honestly the F-15 isn’t that maneuverable, especially at high speeds (which is the main thing the Eagle can do extremely well: reach high speeds).

The F15A is extremely manueverable mate ? it retains it’s speed well unless you force it into a compression. Su27 used to absolutely shed it off.

@Flanker_Thunder

i would say twice, 4 chaff is usually more than enough for a missile launched at long range (except it’s a SARH one), but u will have to drop more if u’re near the target (especially at close range 10km/5km).

So again then, the fact the F15A has what 240 CMs or 120 can’t remmeber off the top of my head is a huge bonus compared to the lesser SU27

@Flanker_Thunder

u start firing the instant u press the button, not like Vulcan which needs to rotate first for like 0.5secs before actually shooting.

okay ? and? the velocity of the rounds is not good at all in comparison.

@Flanker_Thunder

except we start talking about Hornet, it’s a bit easier to aim with the Gsh-30-1 du

i’ve no idea hwat you are saying here man.

@Flanker_Thunder

more near of the aircraft than the F-15’s Vulcan (which remains in a way more far position than the one in the Flankers).

Yup it’s not a bad position at all, nor is that of the flankers, I like the gun positon quite a lot.

@Flanker_Thunder

trigger discipline, learnt since lower tiers.

I’m sorry but trigger discipline doesn’t care, I’ve got trigger discipline lol I’ve got Russian air at top tier as well. The Vulcans ammo counts allows for 3 things.

• 1 to allow for more leniency in certain shots AKA take a shot which may not be perfect but could hit.
• allows for substantially more longevity in games meaning you can stay for longer.
• gives you the chance to score more kills due to the higher ammo count.

@Flanker_Thunder

let’s take multipath out of the conversation, u’know? cuz if multipath is an excuse, then i can say i would just dive agressively to the ground and dodge the AIM-7M like nothing just like u’re saying R-27ER was trash

Didn’t say R27ER was trash, I’ve said god knows how many times it was , and still is literally the best SARH missile in game.
It was made redundant same as sparrows due to the multipath.
So it’s not really a calling point for the SU27 when the majority of it’s missiles were rendered obsolete.

@Flanker_Thunder

MiGanFox-3 has teached me something: pitch up and drop chaff

Why on earth would you pitch up.
also it’s “taught” not teached.

@Flanker_Thunder

that doesn’t mean SARH missiles were bad, bozo.

They quite literally were a waste of space for the most part back then an taking IR missiles over them was preferential on most jets , key example the grippen or mirage 4000.

@Flanker_Thunder

77-1 (the most OP Fox-3 till now) and that doesn’t mean it’s trash.

Mica is the most OP fox 3 still.

@Flanker_Thunder

it’s like saying a M26 is bad cuz it can’t penetrate a Tiger II frontally. yeah it can’t, but that doesn’t mean it’s a trash vehicle just cuz it can’t counter one thing.

You’re irrevantly comparing two things in a way of which I never said. At all.

something being made redundant due to one game play mechanic does not make it bad, it makes it pointless.
Two objectively different things.

Like how buffing the strength of flares made IRCCM missiles lose their gimmick.

@Flanker_Thunder

it mostly sucks,

It doesn’t at all.

@Flanker_Thunder

maybe it’s due to the BR, but i have played AIM-7M in the F-16D and F-15I and they suck at everything: they aren’t as fast, maneuverable, modern, useful as other SARH missiles.

AIM7M is literally the best SARH missile behind the 7P

[An_Pigeon]

@Flanker_Thunder

meh not bad, but Fulcrum exchanges amount for quality.

Not really man the fulcrum has no business at thr same br as the 15A especially seeijg as its the 4 9Ms

@Flanker_Thunder

which can be barrel

Never in my life have i seen someone barrel roll a 9M, sparrow sure.
Not a sidewinder. Not without popping some cms.

@Flanker_Thunder

for accelerating

Take a mig29 and ill take an F15 and i bet the 15 wins every time.
The mig29 even with the close to proper FM in game is not close to 15A

@Flanker_Thunder

cuestionable

Questionable* and no its not man the f15 is better

@Flanker_Thunder

how much each one?

What? You can take less fuel and get further meaning it has better weight in dogfights .

[An_Pigeon]

@Flanker_Thunder

idk, bozo,

Who tf u calling bozo? Whats the need for that at all you melt.

[JugggerNaawwt-psn]

Russia does not need a buff, if anything it needs a nerf.

[IHаteCAS]

@Caernarvon02

the average is 0.6-0.7 bro…

Well, not really.

Spoiler

The average KD of players at this BR is usually positive, atleast in MBTs.

A “good” KD should not be anywhere below 2, preferably 3. 1kd just means you take out 1 enemy at the cost of your own life, definition of an equal trade or mediocrity.

[Tsumibito42-psn]

Except you’d be facing tanks like the t32’s and t30 and t29 and is3 all tanks you don’t see due to match making putting them higher in br. Probably some nasty planes as well that count as ww2 not sitting at the br they should be for America. and Historically the Maus never operated so it wouldn’t be in the game. But yeah german mains go off about how unfair it is that your tiger 2 has to face some of the weaker early cold war tanks meanwhile the other countries heavy ww2 tanks are like fighting m60 pattons lol.

[Flanker_Thunder]

@An_Pigeon

that was te point when it released the F15A IRL is and was a missile bus and in game the F15A dogwalked the Su27 in dogfights and the Su27 was a missile bus.

ingame the Su-27 was a missile bus and better in dogfights than the F-15A.
i recommend u to go duel somebody in the F-15A vs. their Su-27 and tell me which one is better (via video, ofc). Su-27 has more thrust, it was designed for dogfighting (like the F-16 and it’s unstable design controlled by a computer) and was way better at everything than the F-15A.

u literally didn’t need braincells to play Su-27 while u actually needed while playing the F-15A.

@An_Pigeon

The F15A is extremely manueverable mate ? it retains it’s speed well unless you force it into a compression. Su27 used to absolutely shed it off.

F-15s are bricks, bro, once u go over Mach 1 they turn into complete bricks, while the Su-27s have amazing turning time between 800kph and Mach +1.

@An_Pigeon

So again then, the fact the F15A has what 240 CMs or 120 can’t remmeber off the top of my head is a huge bonus compared to the lesser SU27

so again then, depends the player.
u aren’t going to spend 120CM in a goddamn match, bozo, saying more CM is better while matches don’t last that much is like saying carrying dumb bombs in a fighter is a good idea cuz “naah what if the match lasts more and i run out of missiles? i can bomb bases then!” (while adding unnecessary weight).

240CM vs. 96LCCM is pretty much the same, and spamming 240CM isn’t going to fix a skill issue with the F-15A.

@An_Pigeon

okay ? and? the velocity of the rounds is not good at all in comparison.

Flanker_Thunder:

okay ? and? it does more damage and it’s easier to aim than the Vulcan of the Eagle which is way more off-center than the Gsh-30-1.

@An_Pigeon

i’ve no idea hwat you are saying here man.

shame on u.

@An_Pigeon

Yup it’s not a bad position at all, nor is that of the flankers, I like the gun positon quite a lot.

good for u, i would like my gun to be directly at the center of the nose or like the MiG-29’s gun, to the left. i have found quite easier to aim the Gsh in the Fulcrum than in the Flanker just cuz the Fulcrum has it’s gun mounted in the left, lol.

@An_Pigeon

I’m sorry but trigger discipline doesn’t care, I’ve got trigger discipline lol I’ve got Russian air at top tier as well. The Vulcans ammo counts allows for 3 things.

• 1 to allow for more leniency in certain shots AKA take a shot which may not be perfect but could hit.
• allows for substantially more longevity in games meaning you can stay for longer.
• gives you the chance to score more kills due to the higher ammo count.

if u don’t care about trigger discipline then i can say the Vulcan is pretty much the same as the Gsh-30-1 cuz nobody cares about trigger discipline at toptier, cuz there’s barely 1 dogfight every 250 battles at toptier and most people only care about carrying as much missiles as possible (that’s also the reason of why people say Su-30SM2 is the best toptier jet, just cuz it has 14 missiles).

@An_Pigeon

Didn’t say R27ER was trash, I’ve said god knows how many times it was , and still is literally the best SARH missile in game.
It was made redundant same as sparrows due to the multipath.
So it’s not really a calling point for the SU27 when the majority of it’s missiles were rendered obsolete.

u’re proving that all missiles suck cuz back in time u were able of just multipathing them.
if we take multipath out of the conversation, R-27ER was way better than AIM-7M, which means Su-27 ALSO was better than the F-15A since 1. Flanker had more missiles 2. Eagle had worse missiles (even AIM-9Ms suck) 3. Flanker had better turning time and HMD 4. Eagle was only able of accelerating way better and faster than the Flanker and had a better RWR.

@An_Pigeon

Why on earth would you pitch up.

if the missile comes from below, pitch up and drop chaff.

@An_Pigeon

also it’s “taught” not teached.

srry English isn’t my main language, as u may probably already notice :P

@An_Pigeon

They quite literally were a waste of space for the most part back then an taking IR missiles over them was preferential on most jets , key example the grippen or mirage 4000.

Gripen…acceptable
Mirage 4000? 530D is very decent and it doesn’t have such a good flight model compared to other planes to actually be a knife-fight jet with 8 Magic 2s.

@An_Pigeon

Mica is the most OP fox 3 still.

limited range + low rip speed of the Rafale make it a quite challenging plane imo, and the RWR/MAW is desperatingly confusing.

@An_Pigeon

It doesn’t at all.

how many times have u seen a R-27ER go for it’s teammate while u have a clear lock on the enemy/make random turns when it’s off the rail just to weirdly lose the lock and explode or crash?
i have seen plenty of people with this issue while using AIM-7Ms, never with the R-27ER, and almost never too with AIM-7P.

@An_Pigeon

Not really man the fulcrum has no business at thr same br as the 15A especially seeijg as its the 4 9Ms

it will get R-73s in the new update, and back then the Fulcrum had way better FM than the F-15A. u can’t say F-15A wins in a dogfight against the MiG-29.

@An_Pigeon

Not a sidewinder. Not without popping some cms.

that’s what i mean.
the technique to dodge AIM-9M/AAM-3 is literally just barrel roll and pop flares.
gatewidth missiles are other history.

@An_Pigeon

Take a mig29 and ill take an F15 and i bet the 15 wins every time.
The mig29 even with the close to proper FM in game is not close to 15A

Fulcrum was literally and especifically handcrafted to win dogfights
Eagle was literally and especifically handcrafted for air superiority/BVR

@An_Pigeon

Questionable* and no its not man the f15 is better

it isn’t and as i said English isn’t my main language.

@An_Pigeon

What? You can take less fuel and get further meaning it has better weight in dogfights .

how much fuel do each one drink, u’re saying Eagle has better fuel consumption, right? that’s what i’m asking u.

@An_Pigeon

Who tf u calling bozo? Whats the need for that at all you melt.

you

[Flanker_Thunder]

@JugggerNaawwt-psn

Russia does not need a buff, if anything it needs a nerf.

i bet u can actually prove russian tanks need a nerf.

[An_Pigeon]

@Flanker_Thunder

ingame the Su-27 was a missile bus and better in dogfights than the F-15A.
i recommend u to go duel somebody in the F-15A vs. their Su-27 and tell me which one is better (via video, ofc). Su-27 has more thrust, it was designed for dogfighting (like the F-16 and it’s unstable design controlled by a computer) and was way better at everything than the F-15A

You really don’t know the su27 fm was neutered when it was released do you?
@AlvisWisla can tell you more.
But when released F15A was an absolute menace of a dogfighter in comparisson.
The su27 had an advantage in the first turn, that is it.

There was about 2 or 3 FMs better at the time, the gripen 16A and the Mirage.

The su27 now i still beat with F15A quite easily.

@Flanker_Thunder

u literally didn’t need braincells to play Su-27 while u actually needed while playing the F-15A

You didn’t for the F15A at all mate.
You could literally hold W and manage just fine.

@Flanker_Thunder

F-15s are bricks, bro, once u go over Mach 1 they turn into complete bricks, while the Su-27s have amazing turning time betwee

The F15A

• is the lightest and most maneuverable of them all.
• has fantastical flight characteristics below mach 1 as well.

Also su27 again was left without any speed or energy after the first turn.

I shall continue once i am home and on the PC to give more indepth responses.

[AlvisWisla]

@An_Pigeon

But when released F15A was an absolute menace of a dogfighter in comparisson.

The F-15A can still beat the Su-27SM3 post Flanker buffs, which is tied for best dogfighting Flanker alongside J-11B as well.

Of course, mess with the fuel of either, and you benefit or reduce against each other.

[Flanker_Thunder]

@AlvisWisla

Su-27SM3

[AlvisWisla]

That’s the specific version we have in-game.
Engine upgrades and further avionics upgrades.

[Flanker_Thunder]

we have Su-27SM and Su-30SM/SM2.
Su-27SM3 is not ingame, tho there’s a topic talking about it and if people would like it to be added.

Sukhoi Su-27SM3 Flanker-J2: A new Standard for the Masterpiece

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[An_Pigeon]

@Flanker_Thunder

so again then, depends the player.
u aren’t going to spend 120CM in a goddamn match, bozo, saying more CM is better while matches don’t last that much is like saying carrying dumb bombs in a fighter is a good idea cuz “naah what if the match lasts more and i run out of missiles? i can bomb bases then!” (while adding unnecessary weight).

Im sorry but saying that one plane has a clear distinct advantage in counter measures is not an advantage purely due to players may not use them is just stupid.

You’re calling me a “bozo” yet using ridiuclously stupid answers as a way to disparage a clear advantage a plane has.

If you have 45 pops over 15 then those 45 are a clear advantage. even when 15 is enough.

@Flanker_Thunder

240CM vs. 96LCCM is pretty much the same, and spamming 240CM isn’t going to fix a skill issue with the F-15A.

There is no issue with teh F15A , the countermeasures over perform massively in game and have done for a long time now.
Pretty much since IRCCM missiles were introduced.

The fact you stats 96 Large CMs is even equivelant to 240 regulars is bonkers, especially seeing as I am refering to back when both of these were added and the Flares of the F15 were far more useful due to the sheer volume you could use in that IRCCM meta missile fest.

@Flanker_Thunder

okay ? and? it does more damage and it’s easier to aim than the Vulcan of the Eagle which is way more off-center than the Gsh-30-1.

The the Vulcan on teh F15A is slightly harder to aim sure, but if you’re at those BRs without knowing how to aim a gun which is slighlty off the center then shame on you, as you said about ammo management? .

AS well as this the vulcan at the time of release was considered by many to be the meta cannon at those BRs due to the combination of velocity, ammunition and damage.

The 30mm sure hits harder but it’s far harder to get hits with, the shell velocity on it is a detriment to it as well.
Much the same idea as the GHS 23.

@Flanker_Thunder

shame on u.

An Pigeon:

Ah because you cannot type a coherent sentence that one can’t understand it’s my fault?

Shame on you for trying to pass the buck.

@Flanker_Thunder

if u don’t care about trigger discipline then i can say the Vulcan is pretty much the same as the Gsh-30-1 cuz nobody cares about trigger discipline at toptier, cuz there’s barely 1 dogfight every 250 battles at toptier and most people only care about carrying as much missiles as possible (that’s also the reason of why people say Su-30SM2 is the best toptier jet, just cuz it has 14 missiles).

Im going to stop this right here because at a quick glance you’ve never even used an F15A

You’ve literally no experience with the plane and I strongly suggest going and watching DEFYNs video on the F15J I believe it was.

The F15A absolutely mogged the Su27 on release mate, the issue was the american pilots were brainless AF with it expecting it to be some wonder weapon.

@Flanker_Thunder

u’re proving that all missiles suck cuz back in time u were able of just multipathing them.
if we take multipath out of the conversation, R-27ER was way better than AIM-7M

Okay and? the fact of the matter was multipathing was a huge thing back then hence why the IRCCM missile meta was so prevelant.

@Flanker_Thunder

better than the F-15A since 1. Flanker had more missiles 2. Eagle had worse missiles (even AIM-9Ms suck)

Aim9Ms at release had worse close range cpaabilites but were both smokeless and far longer range than R73s due to the fact R73s thrust vectoring caused them to spin out of control if fired at too slow a speed or too steep an angle of attack

@Flanker_Thunder

3. Flanker had better turning time

the su27 had a better instantanious turn for only one turn then would bleed all its speed leaving it at a massive disadvantage as per the grids shown by @AlvisWisla even now the buffed SU27 loses in most cases to the F15A.

@Flanker_Thunder

and HMD 4. Eagle was only able of accelerating way better and faster than the Flanker and had a better RWR.

HMD was a boon there’s no debate there. However the radar was worse.

** if the F15A accelerated faster then it had better TWR which means it had / has better sustained rating for dogfighting which was as I said quite prevelent then due to the IR missile meta**

@Flanker_Thunder

if the missile comes from below, pitch up and drop chaff.

An Pigeon:

why pitch up? you can pitch down as well adn it works as well as you gain energy rather than lose it.

as long as it’s 90 degrees to the missile / radar.

@Flanker_Thunder

Gripen…acceptable
Mirage 4000? 530D is very decent and it doesn’t have such a good flight model compared to other planes to actually be a knife-fight jet with 8 Magic 2s.

An Pigeon:

the mirage 4k at release was extremely good if you managed the wing overload as has been shown numerous times by content creators.
as well as it’s stats at the time.

the 530D is decent sure, but the Aim7M is better than it.

@Flanker_Thunder

limited range + low rip speed of the Rafale make it a quite challenging plane imo, and the RWR/MAW is desperatingly confusing.

You’ve nto got the rafale nor have I but I can tell you I am certainly closer to it that you are and the mirage just before it does not wing rip easily at all.

@Flanker_Thunder

how many times have u seen a R-27ER go for it’s teammate while u have a clear lock on the enemy/make random turns when it’s off the rail just to weirdly lose the lock and explode or crash?

Quite a lot mate in my usage of the mig29.

@Flanker_Thunder

it will get R-73s in the new update, and back then the Fulcrum had way better FM than the F-15A. u can’t say F-15A wins in a dogfight against the MiG-29.

uhm what? the fulcrum FM back then was objectively worse than it was now.
Again most air CCs made videos about it once it got nerfed.

The mig29s got absolutely slaughtered by the F15A mate haha, the Mig29 lost too much speed.

@Flanker_Thunder

that’s what i mean.
the technique to dodge AIM-9M/AAM-3 is literally just barrel roll and pop flares.
gatewidth missiles are other history.

same as almost every missile in game mate?

@Flanker_Thunder

Fulcrum was literally and especifically handcrafted to win dogfights

I am well aware, that doesn’t mean that in game it does this at all

@Flanker_Thunder

Eagle was literally and especifically handcrafted for air superiority/BVR

An Pigeon:

hence why so many people were confused when SU27 was a missile bus and the F15A slapped in dogfights

@Flanker_Thunder

how much fuel do each one drink, u’re saying Eagle has better fuel consumption, right? that’s what i’m asking u.

An Pigeon:

15 mins fuel on both the mig29 can afterburn for about 3 of 4 mins the F15A last time I trialed was closer to 8

@Flanker_Thunder

you

Why but? cause you’re wrong and are acting liek a child over it or what??

What did I do for you to insult me?

if you’d like we cna insult one another and you’ll certainly lose.

But this isnot the place for that and you should remain respective of other members

[Flanker_Thunder]

@An_Pigeon

Im sorry but saying that one plane has a clear distinct advantage in counter measures is not an advantage purely due to players may not use them is just stupid.

You’re calling me a “bozo” yet using ridiuclously stupid answers as a way to disparage a clear advantage a plane has.

If you have 45 pops over 15 then those 45 are a clear advantage. even when 15 is enough.

when did i even say it isn’t an advantage? i have been saying since like 3 replies that more countermesures is an advantage, but that 96LCCM is better by the fact of how LCCM work and that u aren’t going to spend all of them in a single match.

@An_Pigeon

You’re calling me a “bozo” yet using ridiuclously stupid answers as a way to disparage a clear advantage a plane has.

Su-27 still better than F-15A even when they were both toptier jets.

@An_Pigeon

The fact you stats 96 Large CMs is even equivelant to 240 regulars is bonkers

make a comparison between LCCM and normal CM and tell me which one is better.
LCCM is better than normal tho most planes with them have less CM.

@An_Pigeon

The the Vulcan on teh F15A is slightly harder to aim sure, but if you’re at those BRs without knowing how to aim a gun which is slighlty off the center then shame on you, as you said about ammo management? .

says the one who believes more ammo = better.
that’s called skill issue.

@An_Pigeon

Ah because you cannot type a coherent sentence that one can’t understand it’s my fault?

nah, cuz u’re the type of person who doesn’t know what the other one is typing and just makes a quick read of everything and then keeps throwing BS and lies about what he believes is right.

@An_Pigeon

Shame on you for trying to pass the buck.

shame on u for not being able of understanding.

@An_Pigeon

the su27 had a better instantanious turn for only one turn then would bleed all its speed leaving it at a massive disadvantage as per the grids shown by @AlvisWisla even now the buffed SU27 loses in most cases to the F15A.

instantaneous turn is what matters now and back in time, since u’re still saying “IRCCM missiles were meta”.
btw AIM-9M was and still is the worst IRCCM missile ingame, the only good thing it had back in time was range.

@An_Pigeon

** if the F15A accelerated faster then it had better TWR which means it had / has better sustained rating for dogfighting which was as I said quite prevelent then due to the IR missile meta**

if IRCCM missiles were meta back then, that means Su-27 was better cuz R-73 was an amazing missile for dogfights, especially paired with the “instantaneous turn of the Su-27”.

@An_Pigeon

why pitch up? you can pitch down as well adn it works as well as you gain energy rather than lose it.

as long as it’s 90 degrees to the missile / radar.

u have more time by pitching up instead of going to the missile’s direction, and i have found it quite better to pitch up when the target’s down and pitching down when the target’s up.

@An_Pigeon

the 530D is decent sure, but the Aim7M is better than it.

530D is faster and more maneuverable + has way stronger rocket-engine + it doesn’t have delay (while the Sparrow has).

@An_Pigeon

You’ve nto got the rafale nor have I but I can tell you I am certainly closer to it that you are and the mirage just before it does not wing rip easily at all.

say hi to mommy baguette.
and it does wing rip easily, it’s rip speed at sea lvl is Mach 1.21, pretty low compared to other aicrafts which can reach Mach 1.36 or higher.

@An_Pigeon

Quite a lot mate in my usage of the mig29.

could u prove it?

@An_Pigeon

same as almost every missile in game mate?

so u’re saying u can barrel roll + flare a gatewidth missile? u must be ragebaiting atp.

@An_Pigeon

Why but? cause you’re wrong and are acting liek a child over it or what??

cuz it looks like u’re blaming me for the F-15A’s new BR?
u have been crying about me calling u “bozo” since ur brain started believing i was against the F-15A being good or remaining at 13.0.

@An_Pigeon

What did I do for you to insult me?

lie, probably? when i used Su-27 back when it was one of the few toptier jets, it absolutely stomped the F-15A outta the sky, and i wasn’t the only who had such a nice time using it.

sure there’s old videos of people using F-15A and getting lots of kills, there’s old videos of people using Su-27 and getting lots of kills too.

i haven’t found much videos about them (since u don’t need to do 5 videos for a single vehicle to show how it works) which actually show raw gameplay with comments about the aircraft’s performance.

- YouTube

- YouTube

- YouTube

- YouTube

the same DEFYN u have been introducing all the time has proved that Su-27 was relatively superior.

@An_Pigeon

if you’d like we cna insult one another and you’ll certainly lose.

that assumption is quite childish, u know? if im “acting like a child”, u should be more mature than me and don’t start insulting me too.

@An_Pigeon

But this isnot the place for that and you should remain respective of other members

WT Forums are a place for everything, and i have been very respective to other people who have said, proved and responded me in an educated way.

[Kievskiy_Minipig]

Might be related to regional prices. Encountered this issue on steam when I tried to send gift to friend in other country.
Some countries have lower prices so people living there could afford stuff. You can see difference between countries here (used Dont Starve Together as example):

Difference between euro and ruble or hryvnia is huge. And this can be exploited to buy games and other things for much less money. So thats probably why you couldnt send gift.

There is still this option btw:

@БЕИ

one private dance at the strip club

[PyroAddict]

@An_Pigeon

the F15A when it dropped was in the top 3 as best planes in the game.

At this point, this is a terrible ragebait. The F-16C existed as the american top dog. If you preferred maneuverability, you had the F-16A, albeit lacking IRCCM missiles and HMS, but the sidegrade was there, but by no means the F-15A was the proper US top dog on the IR/SARH meta.

Even though it had a reliable FM (with random wingrips), IRCCM missiles and top speed/acceleration, that’s all it had going for it. It lacked HMS, the radar was (and still is) unreliable at 45°+ maneuvering targets, and even its nose authority was suboptimal even compared out of the “top dogs” of Air Superiority in a vacuum (Su-27, Gripen, M4K), let alone the rest of jets in-game back then.

The fact you’ve been liked by Ion (which haven’t played it, and will like even the most evident copypasta which favors the view of the F-15A/J/Baz being good at 13.0) shows how unreliable this whole argument of yours is.

[JugggerNaawwt-psn]

I shouldn’t have to explain why Russia needs a nerf, the amount of broken vehicles Russia gets is absurd. If anything, Russia shouldn’t get any vehicles or planes for 2 events or updates.

[Flanker_Thunder]

i still don’t know why so much hate to Russia.
they’re some of the most balanced vehicles ingame.

so yes, u should have to explain why Russia needs a nerf, cuz they actually don’t need one, it’s just another of that typical NATO complainments cuz their superior Abrams can’t pen the UFP of a T-90M.

excluding the BMPT and it’s bugged survivability, russian tanks are some of the worst ingame.

[_Renzo]

The Su-27SM we have in game is supposedly a frankenstein of multiple models, incuding the SM3.