Russian top tier tanks need a fair buff

So it’s stated to be capable? Good enough.

We don’t have a statement, or even anywhere close to it, that the NM can actually hold 8 LMURs.

Also you cant expect to reduce any heli munition without a br decrease.

The LDIRCM alone warrants the current BRs for the helis that have it. And you can take other missiles in place of the LMUR.

my man but why does lmur have it introduced and not any other helicopter? THAT IS THE POINT HERE HELLOWWWW

It can only fire and guide two missiles at the same time. It also has to switch between proxy or regular mode before engaging spesific units unlike in game.

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Theoretically, a single Mi-28NM could carry eight LMUR missiles on four APU-L twin launchers

Lmao. Your own source says it’s only possible in theory, and gives an explanation as to why not, but they also mention it’s a heavy as hell missile, so likely weight constraints are a bigger issue, rather than having to “guide” a “Fire n Forget” missile.

He cant/wont. Its the same spiel as always.
“There is no bias”
“heres an example of bias”
“Oh i cant comment on that its not the part of the game im knowledgable in but i also wont concede”

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You cant take other missiles on the inner pylon.

You will still be limited to 4

So it’s a technical limitation that Gaijin ignored?

)))))))))

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Might be a stretch but looking at various photos I think mounting 8 LMURs wouldnt even fit. They could be too close to eachother thus not being used in such config. If they can be fired or not from the inner pylons, no idea

Here you go, massive list of overpowered vehicles (on release):

  • PaKpuma, XP-50, Aerfer Ariete, M4A3 105, M1 Abrams, AH-1Z, Leopard 2A5, German KV-1B, CW-21, TURM III, IPM1, Coelian, HE 100, P-39N, J2M2, R3 T20, Mitsubishi T-2, EBR 1954, Gepard (TIer I), Harrier, SdKfz 140/1, F-14A, VIDAR, Kpz/MBT-70, Puma, T18E2, Schützenpanzer Puma, Ki-44-II, T58, Calliope, P-59, Conqueror, Centurion Mk.3, Etc.
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No those are top tier
As for the end goal, it seems they are more tailored against chemical ammunitions… Which doesn’t matter since the Kontakt-5 and Relikt have more chemical protection anyway.

Basically a prototype missile, assuming it works at all. To be fair AASM IR also needs some changing, it does not work like it does in game at all.

On that one we agree

Not ignore but balance. They didnt know it was gonna perform this much butb still changes could happen after update but didnt.

You need to ask them why.

something something

but your stats

something something

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I still remember when they hit the PARS with a trifecta of nerfs after just a few weeks of them being “only” half as good as LMURs are currently ))))

And now explain how are they overpowered :) because after 14 years i remember ka-50 being nerfed after years of being vastly OP while those vehicles got nerfed quickly :) now tell me again how are they op?

p39-n vs yak-9 dont make me laugh :)

Well Relikt IS a much better ERA than TUSK and AZUR afaik since it offers protection against fin penetrators aswell not only chemical protection

well yours is pictur that everyone, with limited skills with MS Piant, can recreate… so

you presume much…

The guidence of the LMURs IRL is not like in-game… beleave me you dont the in-game missiles to have they’re accurate guidence… IRL the pilot have POV from the seaker and can re-direct/lock other target in the terminal phase.

You may be right… we don’t know

Werent PARS the first F&F heli missiles? The forums went nuclear on them lmao…look at it now, every top heli is the same :(

“I don’t wanna believe in X thing that says I’m wrong” ahh argument

you presume much…

It’s a reasonable “presumption”, based on what we’ve seen.

IRL the pilot have POV from the seaker and can re-direct/lock other target in the terminal phase.

Yeah, so can other missiles, PARS had that features in early 2000s, it’s called Man-In-The-Loop.

Pars the german f&f heli right ?

Thats was the only one at that time.

But since we got new heli, it got buff and down br unlike the other.

Cant expect much nerf for mi28nm tbh. Stats are pretty much the same as other helis of this class

Yeah, and they still weren’t even half as good as LMURs are today. They were, from my own experience, as good as maybe, the JAGM-IR.

And funnily, they weren’t even F&F at first, they were SAL, but the heli was performing so badly, Gaijin had to give it F&F or Hellfires, but at the time they were still pretending to care about “loadout and historical accuracy”, so we got the first ever F&F missile, and after about 2 weeks it was nerfed via guidence, fin deflection (making them turn worse), and post-pen damage heh.

Fin deflection has been fixed giving the missile 10 AoA, rather than the previous 6, along with post-pen damage to a degree, but the guidence is still dog tier.

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