Realistically the only thing a reload buff achieves is making them less annoying to play. T-80s going to 6s did not change their rankings at all.
1 Like
Considering that you dont even challenge my statement that russian CAS strenght currently comes from fake implementations im just gonna assume that you agree and the rest of your comment was just finger exercise.
Literally not an insult but well meant advice. Youd rather be yapping about what i spend my money on than actually give prove for “russophobia” or show me where im wrong.
Based on? Your opinion? Great so we can just cut all reloads in the game by a bit and nothing will ever change
1 Like
NATO tanks reduced reload rate to 4.75s (👉ﾟヮﾟ)👉
1 Like
Been doing some digging and even though it is very arguable for or against but if you look at the patterns of RU military and how they implement and move stuff from testing phases to operational or optional for sale the MT variant isnt so unrealistic even though finding any photo proof other than Izd. 65MT seeker is pretty much impossible which for RU side of things isnt really anything new.Most of the info on their weaponary comes from western sources anyway and even if they did come from RU themselves, none would believe it anyway because they must be lying, right? Right.
1 Like
Repeat what you just wrote slowly in your head and think that were talking about the general existence of a modern weapon in the best and most documented time in human history.
That alone should be enough to show how ridiculous that addition was but lets not turn this into another 38MT thread.
Oh really? Show me a document or a video that says/proves a human can reload a shell into the breach in 5 seconds while going 60kmh on rough terrain jumping, turning, yawing…The seeker got its GRAU index, its being offered for sale for a few years now, the fact that RU Army didnt buy it probably means they are too expensive and they found a workaround as RU military often does to cut costs, sanctions play a role aswell but one thing is for certain. If it never existed and is just a made up imaginary missile, why would it get a GRAU index and still years later be offered for sale? I know its a stretch of an argument and me personally wouldnt add such weapons to the game with such small maps, also the MT seeker on a missile with that much range doesnt make much sense to me either.
You are the one constantly pushing for the 38MT topic in here…
1 Like
Or because it doesnt exists since there is absolutely 0 concrete proof that it does.
I am absolutely not, you guys just get into a complete frenzy when someone mentions that russias top BR competetiveness is based on selective realism and fakes and then feel the need to make this thread the 10000th thread in which no new information is given. I really dont know why youre so compelled to defend this stuff like your personal honor depends on it.
The whole f-ing game is based on selective realism dude! Thats how this game is made playable at all! You cant seem to understand that I am not defending RU vehicles but the plain logic…38MT is unrealistic? Remove it! 5 seconds reload on the move is unrealistic? Remove it! Pixel hunting is unrealistic? Remove it! Vehicle repairs on the field in the middle of a engagement zone is unrealistic? Remove it! If you do all that all you are left with is fancy vehicle models in the hangar to look at.
But the topic of unrealistic, made up weaponary and/or facts applies only to RU vehicles on this forum because theres no way someone can have anything better than the almighty US, right? Right.
2 Likes
Yo WTF happened i just left for 1 day after i discuss with Jecka, how much ragebait did i miss?
yeah those are game mechanics…, the 38MT, BMPT belt, Su30 racks are not game mechanics, they are additions that just seem to follow different rules compared to anyone else. How youre not understanding the difference is beyond me.
No it only applies to ru because everyone else is generally suffering from it not profiting? Also no idea where you got the US part from.
1 Like
Well the other side of the battlefield is suffering from Abrams 5 seconds reload at full speed, why dont we start a thread about that? Not sure how long you were in the game but Abrams didnt always have that good reload.
BMPT just as ANY vehicle in the history of this game when it first came out was crazy OP and in time tuned down and put with the rest of the bunch! Su30 double racks are fake, they MAYBE could be mounted and/or used on Su30 but so far only the 35 was using those. No idea what was the reason behind that, as if 30 doesnt have enough missile as is…
B17, T32,first Leopards, G8N Renzan, A6M Zeros, Griffon Spitfires, F8F Bearcat, F&F Tigercat, M26E1 Pershing premium, Panther 2, Tiger 2, Dora D13, TA152 H1,Do 335,M46 Tiger, M4A Jumbo, B29, Tiger H, Ru 251, Black Prince, Tempest Mk V, Shiden Kai, Ki 84 Hayate, and and and…ALL these vehicles were when introduced and were new to the game ridiculously strong because they were NEW and/or premium vehicles so you need to make them sell, you make them good, sell enough of them, tuned them down make them blend in with the rest. Same pattern is being done now too! New Su30SM2? AMAZING BEST RU OP whatever, as soon as the new shiny thing comes out it will stay that way. Thats just their corporate strategy to get people hooked on it.
1 Like
Spreading lies and misinfo, BMPT is still as OP as ever, especially in downtiers
When did the BMPT come out? Usual pattern for the OP stuff shift is until the next big update
All tanks with manual reload don’t have any reload penalty while moving. It’s a bad example.
Its still an example for a manually loading shells, no matter which tank you choose, Abrams being the biggest to benefit from it
You can make a thread about that if you want but we all know that manual reloads are balancing factors for Gaijin since compared to autoloaders there is no definitive reload speed.
Exactly thats what always happens and it makes sense in a monetary perspective for Gaijin. But thats not whats happening with ru top tier rn. They are not at their repective BR bracket, because theyre new. They are there, because they profit from selective realism and/or the direct competition gets kneecapped by it.
Do you think the MI28NM would be at the highest BR if LDIRCM was realistic and every AGM in the game lofted like LMURS do?
Do you think the SU30s would be at the same BR as the Rafale/ EFTs without their additional racks and fake radar performance compared to the rest?
Do you think the T80/90 would be on the same level as the 2A7/SEP V2 if ERA wasnt a joke, carousels were properly modeled, baskets were realistic and western Armor wasnt cardboard?
Do you think Soyuz would be better than the Iowa if Gaijin went with an actually realistic implementation?
I know that premiums love to be undertiered (Turm and T58 say hello) and that new additions are stronger than the old stuff, because powercreep sells. Im not even saying that russia is the best or insanely strong due to selective realism, im saying that only that makes them competetive in the first place.
1 Like
I’m like 99.9% sure there are plenty of 1-5 rank tanks who benefit from this more than the abrams.
Which are not part of the topic since we are talking about top tier?
" Im not even saying that russia is the best or insanely strong due to selective realism, im saying that only that makes them competetive in the first place."
EXACTLY! The only thing I like about those tanks is how they look (some of them at least) but I absolutely HATE to play them. I am more of a Leopard enjoyer myself tbh…I would like to get BMPT someday just because of how it looks, but by the time I actually get it with my game time hours its probably gonna end up as a sack of number 2 as it always happens in my case with vehicles lol
Regarding the rest, yeah thats true aswell! But on the other hand real world circumstances play a big role in design timeframe, finances, tech availability, politics etc…if the USSR didnt fall apart and some other things didnt happen they would probably already have all those toys that are just coming out now. Same for the other side if it happened to them.
Ofc they do thats why we have an ingame system to balance vehicles with different capabilities from different times. Gaijin actively using selective realism for balance opens up a door that comes with so many problems for the future.
1 Like