Russian top tier tanks need a fair buff

but there’s proof of THIS being real, MUAHAHAHAHA!!!
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If you really want depression try flying CAS with brimstones when the enemy has a SAMP, Pantsir and NASAMS up. That’ll really make you work for a kill.

Which is fine, everyone gets what they use but in the current meta agm speed and not having release speed limits really makes a difference. My Rafale is infinitely more comfortable to use as CAS than my EFT despite the latter having vastly more air to ground munition

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F-2A gameplay:

i have never used a Typhoon (rather im grinding for them just like im grinding for the Rafale), but tbh i don’t feel it’s that hard when u have thermals, good optics, speed/maneuverability and if u get close they can do pretty much nothing since most of them use erectable-launchers.

if u’re playing with Germany u only have to worry about EldE 98 since all ARH missiles will just crash into the ground if u multipath (or at least that works against the BUK).

It might seem like that but trust me keeping a laser lock in 13.0 ground with the amount of spaa we have rn is not a situation you want to be in even with the very good fm etc of the Typhoon. The main problem is really that you can effectively only engage one vehicle at a time. It’s doable but much, much more effort than just using FnF munitions.

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yeah i still love the logic of Gaijin and their bugged game:

CAS too good → make OP SPAA
OP SPAA → make CAS too good
CAS too good → make OP SPAA…

Gaijins favoritism.

The RU tree is filled with non-existant equipment loadouts that weren’t spec or production. NATO tanks are generally forced to utilize the equipment they deployed with - not what was theorized or fantasized.

RU tanks also have the kh-38t on their side - a fantasy missile introduced so the Russian dei program can continue.

Nevermind the fact that since this game has started there’s the whole stalinium issue - shells magically disappearing or not penetrating on RU tanks. Meanwhile on pretty much anyone else that tends to not be the case.

Also there’s the ‘small’ issue of the BMPT and it being basically a hunk of shit for anti-armor duties in UKR - yet here its ruining top tier with mythical ERA loadouts and firepower they don’t possess or execute on in real life. And before you try to screech about the PUMA - doesn’t matter, both are broken, both need to be nerfed(or needed to in the PUMA’s case) but at least the PUMA was based on actual combat performance to some extent. The BMPT is just based on pro-russian delusions.

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Actually, NATO tanks use shells 20~ years out of production rather than their actual armament. While Russian tanks have inflated armor values.

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Depends on the cone of spalling.

It’s explained here:

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Oh boy… here we go:

  • LOSAT
  • Chieftain 900
  • Leopard 2AV
  • M60 AMBT
  • XM8
  • Leopard 2 PSO
  • PT-16/T14
  • Begleitpanzer 57
  • Leopard 2K
  • M10 Booker
  • M60 120S
  • Raketenautomat
  • XM975
  • ADATS
  • DF 105
  • FV4202
  • HSTV-L
  • Maus
  • Vickers Mk7
  • FV4030/3
  • Spz 12-3
  • Black Night
  • Challenger 3TD
  • Waffentrager
  • Ru 251
  • Challenger 2E
  • CLOVIS
  • Leopard L/44
  • Class 3 (P)
  • VT1-2
  • RDF/LT
  • AGS
  • M6A2E1
  • T32
  • XP-55
  • Xp-50
  • XM800T
  • T32E1
  • Panther II
  • MBT-70
  • XM803
  • EFV
  • XM-1 GM
  • XM-1 C
  • T54E1
  • T43E2
  • T58
  • E-100
  • BF 109 Z-1
  • Coelian
  • Radkampfwagen 90
  • M247
  • XM246
  • T95E1
  • T95
  • T28
  • Panther F
  • Ho 229 V3
  • Tiger II SLA
  • Tiger II 105
  • Ostwind II
  • R2Y2
  • Chi-To Late
  • F-16AJ
  • T29
  • T34
  • T30
  • J6K1

And that’s just off the top of my head.

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No that wasn’t kill shot. It killed driver, autoloader and not sure maybe engine as well. He still fired back :)

Cool story bro.

70 to 80 percent of the Russian tech tree didn’t see service or even exist beyond prototype and paper stages. That’s before we get to the make believe equipment load outs on a lot of them and things such as the KH38MT.

My statement still stands and is accurate - despite your attempts at whataboutism.

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Literally false lmfao. Get your facts right.

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Could you name any of these, which are not KH38’s because this post is about tanks not planes?

can happen on literally any tank but whatever floats your boat

Congrats, you said the BMPT is op in a paragraph you did not need to write to say it.

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You are to young but gaijin nerff reload speed when russian wr down to 40%, yak141 never get armament, not remember what t80 get thermal bcs 1 t80 mockup get it, when era arrives, russian tanks gets as module, not new tank, like m60 rise, 2 diff tanks with only termals xD, and much more, not the mention, 2s38, not in services, ERA is overperforming, lot of evidence (ukr war), armament nerff bcs russia dont get it… uffff men, and OC, all nation had the same? Lol

What?, the only thing i understood from this is “2s38, not in services”, and then it doesnt even make sense because then half the vehicles should get removed from the game?

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Fun fact: BMPT isnt made as an anti tank platform but as anti infantry/tank protector in urban areas platform…

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I dont know how to reply to only one section of your message lol but I was looking now through the RU tank lineup and as far as I can see everything in there existed in some form. As a prototype, test platform, proposed tank, regular tanks…but they were all made and exist(ed)

btw would like to see this beauty in game some day

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Who currently winning this argument , I want to support the “right” side

I mean yeah. Cause they were made during the Soviet Union and were developed and tested by a lot of different group of people coming from a lot of different background. Russian just one of the many people who participated in developing those vehicle so in a sense you weren’t wrong