But that’s the thing, you gotta use jets and helicopters to even be viable.
Shouldn’t be like that for ANY nation.
Also I dont ever feel that depression is anything of factor on like 90 percent of maps I play china so same issues at top tier and rarely ever find myself in a position where my depression is getting me killed the maps are just way to designed around the lower tiers of the game were nobody has any depression really.
Exactly, imagine bein so bad that even low skill floor tanks can’t save you.
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Yeah it’s like crying while seating in T-80BVM and BMPT. People just don’t realize how bad they play sometimes
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I think gun depression isn’t so important but Russian tanks don’t have reverse gears. Some Chinese ones at least do. When you put bad reverse + bad depression together, half of the map just becomes unavailable to you.
Welcome to combined forces mode.
It seems like their armor does a lot for them because it’s legit the only outstanding aspect that they have.
They are very low potential MBTs. They do the basics of what you want them to do, but their potential and game precense won’t increase a lot with the player skill of the person driving it (so low skill ceiling).
EDIT: Before someone reads this out of the context of the discussion I replied to and starts calling me a Russian main, no I don’t think Russian MBTs are bad overall and no I also don’t think they need any buffs as of now (especially with how dominant Russian CAS currently is).
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Indeed.
Today I played couple matches with my Russian top tier line-up and used only 2S25M.
Combination of good mobility+firepower and scout abilities gave me easy access to immense amount of spawn points and allowed me to abuse broken Russian CAS.
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I said this earlier: 2S25M at top tier is probably my favorite tank.
Mobility and firepower is all you need at top tier, not armor.
Considering their armor overperforms at least %15 and Anti-Era still isn’t a feature in this game, I think Russians should be greatful with all those artificial buffs at all.
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Abrams players would probably agree with you. Keep in mind they still have the bug where their lower front plate can be penned with 100mm AP shell, and their neck basically being a giant hole saying:“Hey shoot here I am a free kill”
Abrams is debatably a worse 2S25M if you use the same playstyle just cause it’s a bit slower lmfao
Eh sometimes i would like to have some armor in my Sprut-M, not gonna lie.
Biggest turn off in this tank is the elevation speed and -4 degree gun depression, how come Russia can produce such a tall tank that has even worse depression than T-80/90’s with abysmal elevation speed?
I literally never said this but I guess making stuff up is on topic.
Forgive the harsh words but are you a bit slow?
The BR system is there to balance out vehicles in their realistic state so you don’t have to make shit up. Why have a game balancing system if I can just make everything up anyway? Let’s play battlefield instead, none of the vehicles are even remotely realistic but it’s balanced. What an insanely stupid take on how the games balancing system should work.
The Abrams has the 2S25M easily beat in firepower and gun handling though and it’s not even a close competition.
Any role the 2S25 can fill the Abrams can likely fill better.
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A tank for flat terrain and sniping basically. I’d love to see Gaijin give it its cage armor but I believe the engine has never changed and the cage armor removes buoyancy.
These are the only 2 REAL variants as far as I’m aware
Abrams can’t scout tho so you can’t abuse the CAS.
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Okay that one is fair actually, I forgot the scouting aspect.
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I agree, but people want them to become not only low skill floor tanks but also high skill ceiling tanks by buffing them to the point they are equal or better to NATO tanks while russia also has the best cas and support vehicles
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I don’t think any sensible person wants them to be equal to NATO tanks. Not realistic either for any of the ones we currently have in-game.
It’s just the fact that they are so BENEATH them that it’d be nice to make them a bit more playable.