yeah i wouldn’t be surprised at all if the topic gets closed or all the discussion about F-15A vs. Su-27 gets removed by moderators.
Cut the crap?
Why talk like 3 weeks for gaijin fixing something is not exceptionally fast lol
How am I being populist? wtf are you on about lad lol
I’m not sitting here trying to appeal to a section of the community who feel disregarded by an elite standing section of the community xD
learn the words before you start slinging them around.
I’m objectively stating the advantages that the F15A had when it released.
Okay ?
how is that in any way relevent to what I am saying
That’s more of an attack on @Ion_492 than anything else using his liking of my comment as a gateway for it.
I have said nothing here meant for Ion to like or dislike I have tagged @AlvisWisla and that was it.
You having a bone to pick with Ion and how they feel or may not feel about planes is absolutely irrelevant to my post.
Which was orginally that teh F15A has no business being the same or lower than the mig29 as it’s objectively a better plane.
Not at all ? lol if i wanted to talk about the MSIP II which I also have I would reference it.
F15A had
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better RWR than the Su27
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better radar than su27
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better FM
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better sustainedfight which in ARB is fantastic meaning you can go from fight to fight without having to hyper manage energy like su27 did and still does have to.
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more counter measures
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better cockpit as well.
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was worse in missile count and quality of SARH missiles.
At no stage have I debated the fact the Su27 was a missile bus
I have concurrently stated the Su27 had worse flight characteristics (still does) and better missiles ( still does)
the original point being the fact the damn F15A got to sit at 12.3 aka under BRd’ while other vehicles moved up, such as the Su27,. mig29 SMT.
which now again the F15A sits at 12.7 when it should be 13.0 the same BR as the Su27
Su27 excels in low speed dogfights, which in ARB if you are in one, you are definitely dead.
Derailing what lol.
i merely responded to others.
IF you’d like I can give a run down on russian tanks too not being over great or bad.
they just got a buff lol
No they do not need a buffright now.
The US tree is quite brilliant mate it’s my most used top tier MBTs as well as I believe my most used air tree but that may be britain
They fixed the BMP-Ts overpressure issues with its missiles within FOUR (4) days into the update, THAT’S EXCEPTIONALLY FAST. Three weeks (TWENTY ONE days) isn’t.
Saying X or Y vehicle is simply OP or flawless without any considerable nuance about it is simply being populist, and thus it gets attention from people biased enough without any own experiences with the vehicles.
Which were very questionable and skill-depending when compared to any other meta vehicle back then. And as of today, 2026, they’re outdated by airframes with either better Flight performance, radar, missile kit or all of the prior.
Worst at BVR engagements, worst at short range missile engagements. Only better at medium range skirmishes, the MiG-29 has definitely niche yet very powerful advantages in a vacuum.
Irrelevant in ARB, you can guesstimate a general direction with 3rd person view.
Irrelevant within 20km, HMS refresh rate in-game works quite similar to ESA radars.
Give it a go now, buddy. The Su-27 is quite able to pull and hold energy at the same time. Time to move on from Air superiority. They’ve buffed the plane since then.
Nothing burger.
Not better, High caliber CMs are 5x more effective. You need only a couple chaffs per missile to spoof it completely, whereas an F-15 needs a couple chaff tosses (6-8 chaff to perform a clean notch under perfect circumstances).
Useless in ARB, the main mode by player count.
Finally conceding something (And honestly, a minuscule thing which isn’t really a considerable disadvantage at the BR)? God in heaven: The heat death of the universe has arrived, finally.
Read the title of the thread.
cope harder
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Both premium Su-30s and the BMPT-72 are functional trycicles, they demand minimal skill and game knowledge to make them work. The Su-30SM2 is a handheld vehicle. The Rafale was, for an entire year, the easiest top tier airframe to play. Before it, the F-15E was the most egregious example of imbalance.
This is not a serious argument anymore.
You’re the one stuck in time dude, it’s not on anyone else here. The game has evolved, so the planes in it. The F-15A has definitely seen worse days, but now at 12.7 is not as OP as any of the “F-15A OP” guild has tried to state.
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I believe they’re storing those upgrades for another variant down the road. A fake “202X mod.” or smth like it, along SepV3, 2A8 and a new gen of MBTs, while they can clearly add those on the current T-90M and would still be historical.
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with Relikt 2.0, now 200% more resistant!
Stalin really loves it’s own tanks!
So let me get this straight.
You, flag my post.
Then post more disinformation…?
Wow.
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T-90M2 has all that, plus a much better reverse gear :)))
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T-90M2 NEXT TANK FR FR!
idc about the reload and ugly APFSDS, if it gets better reverse while tanking everything thx to Relikt it’s enough for me.
Top tier Russia doesn’t need a buff in terms of MBTs overall, except maybe some isolated ones moving down in BR (cough T-72B3A).
Hell I would go as far as to say that Russia shouldn’t get any improved MBTs as long as it doesn’t come with a serious nerf to Russian fixed wing CAS to compensate.
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so in ur opinion they don’t need better MBTs cuz they already have good CAS?
in that case idk why NATO mains complain about russian tanks while having better MBTs instead of CAS.
they NEED their tanks buffed, and i’m talking about T-A-N-K-S, not CAS.
T-A-N-K-S
i still keep seeing people say NATO should get better CAS planes cuz AGM-65B and SPICE 250 is not enough, even when they have the best tanks ingame, and u want Russia to stay the same or even get worse just cuz their CAS is good?
most rank VII/VIII russian tanks should go down in BR, at least 0.3.
Outside the AESA-EFs/Israel/Sweden gang, the US and France are struggling on the CAS department with their IR ordnance (other than their AH-64Es which isn’t particuarly that effective either).
In general, subsonic ordnance already struggles significantly against SACLOS SPAAs, and will struggle even more now against Russia with the new Pantsir and the possibility of a mixed loadout of anti-drone missiles and AA-ones.
A compromise will have to be achieved if Russia is getting something near the triangle of Kh-38s/LMURs/buffed MBTs at the same time.
AGM-179 still needs to get it’s lofting fixed, and i heard Gaijin was going to add a new american ATGM which is pretty similar to the Kh-38MT.
AGM-84H/K, that one. i found it was used by F/A-18s and an american vessel (CG-19).
Source?
Outside of the FM, this is still true. The Su-27 is a better plane, but the F-15A is just OP at 12.7 because of how much better it is than every other 12.7 (including the undertiered IRCCM F-16s). I’ll also concede that the F-15A isn’t as good as I thought it was, but it’s in no way 12.7 worthy.
It’s ridiculous how people can defend that while also keeping the Mig-29s, Harriers, or almost every other 12.7 where they are.
It’s the best air tree, followed closely behind by Russia.
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here are some photos of the AGM-84H/K in the F/A-18C and E
@_Renzo if this would get added then russian tanks could get their deserved buff?