Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

your probably right. its always been wierdly strong from what ive heard

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I mean it lives all the shell types of the SovetSky with ease. It’s legitimately like winning the lotto if you hit the ammo and it detonates.

Like post 7.3 ground, how German shells magically don’t explode after getting destroyed, the scharn has a odd tendency to take absurd amounts of damage to its magazine, with shells hitting it 7 or more times with no detonation.
Not sure if I have clips of that anymore, I can look, but no promises, I was pretty pissed, so I clipped it to bug report it, but gaijin hates me lol, so they label everything “not a bug”

Agreed.

I think a dev server C-5 should’ve come on the F-18s, but the F-15E should’ve gone to 14.3 if they wanted it to have it. Right now, I think the EFT and Rafale should go to 14.7, with the EFT getting more accurate C-5s, and the F-15E should be 14.3 with 120C-5s. For Russia, they should get the Su-30SM2 at 14.7.

It’s not as good as aim-120s, but I’d hesitate to call it bad. The Su-30 is the only non 120 carrier I see doing BVR at the start of the match, so it can’t be that bad.

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maybe USA can get AESA F-15C? or F-15SA for 14.7

The Su-30 can BVR, but typically only when the opposition decides to keep flying at the R-77-1, I wouldn’t say it’s good past… idk 12 miles though. Aim-120 I could probably squeak 16 miles out of if I’m lucky.

I think the Su-30sm is merely better than other Soviet counter parts for 2 big reasons. Radar refresh rate, and turning ability. Otherwise it might as well be a heavier Su-27sm

My favorite trick is force a turn fight, turn AOA limits off, and flip, lock an R-77-1 and launch.

it was not, mig 29 was better for air rb and sb

gripen and su27 were better

it was not at all

The F-15E was OP when it first released.

The 12.3 one is undertiered, and the 12.7 is arguably undertiered.

I will admit now, that the US doesn’t have the best plane in the game, but their air tree is still incredibly good.

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  1. I never said by a large margin for the F-18
  2. The F-16 was certainly better, especially the aim-9m equipped one.
  3. You’re legit crazy if you think the F-15E/I wasn’t. The E got buffed the day it came out or second day, matching the engine output of the I. They are still
    I’m pretty sure the fastest plane in WT acceleration wise for an afterburning aircraft And possibly top end.

Show me you know nothing, by not telling me. Sheesh

out of the three planes he mentioned only one was “the top dog” on release

the f15i has always been better than the f15e

but he said f15, which means the f15 airframe aka the f15a

it never was at all, or even close

the f16 was added against the pre nerf mig 29 with only 9l and 7f

you said f15 not f15e, which means the f15a that was added earlier with 9m and 7f

and again the f15i was and still is better than the f15e and is not a US plane

it is not, ralph beats it currently

and typhoon no?

im not sure on that one, know ralph does for sure

Wouldn’t F-15 be all inclusive then? And F-15A was still quite good.

These kind of blatantly misleading comments really make me wonder why I continue to put up with you. You undersell anything USA related. Even if it’s got all the stats to back it up.

Weren’t you also defending the T58? If so, that aged very poorly.

no it wouldnt, you made it time specific which by default indicates the first time said airframe was added to the game

also it was decent, but not “the top dog” like you claimed

how is it missleading to comment on what you said,

none of you claims have stats to back them up because as I said those were all completely false

no? I think the only times ive mentioned it were in looking into what kinds of ammo it could use and posting a doc from dtic when it was on dev

It’s misleading because you continue to say all the USA vehicles are worse than X vehicle. Which really isn’t true.

F-14 was leagues ahead of anyone, funnily you never brought that up, it has ARH for 1.5 years or 2 years? Before anyone else.

F-15A was quite good, a great contender for top dog. F-15E certainly was Op and still is quite good.

F-16A or ADF, can’t remember which one is which, one of them was ahead of the game, the other was on par with everyone else.

Edit: why aren’t I pulling up stats? Because I don’t care enough, and I am playing Hunter call of the wild rn

it was a one trick pony, it was worse for dogfighting and close ranges than many other planes when it was added but apparently ARH missiles that you can kinematicly dodge are an insane concept for warthunder players, especially with 100m multipath

no?
it very much was not, gripen was much better in a dogfight and su27 was a better missile bus

both of them were worse than mig 29 and mirage 2000 on release for air rb or sb

what happened to the f18?

or maybe its because those stats dont exist

also even if you did say f15i, its still wrong because it was only the best for ~30 days before ralph and eft were added

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Was there a another buff done to top tier Russian vehicles recently?

there was the nerf to 122 and merkava roof armor, but idk what else since the update

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Probably grinding for the new spaa if i had to guess

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