Super wrong, soviets were completed with it in the 1960s, nice job looking up a loaded question.
It’s about 0.28 secs per shell pass over, nor does gaijin model that, where the shells are staggered. As I stated previously
It’s not like the other side is doing well. Abrams and Leo’s have been lost in very high numbers, drones suck for all sides.
Seems like you don’t actually know. You’re just assuming. You know what they say about assuming right?
Looks like a spec of spall hit ammo, not your shell, hard to tell at this angle. I can say for certain, using any shell against Russian ammo is an instant kill shot
Guess to reiterate the root of why alot of people hate the turret basket.
Any hit to it 7/10 times disables your ability to defend yourself. (Hitting engine and basket together usually) Along with its ability to produce spall, taking out your gunner and commander.
The auto loader disables your ability to reload, but does give you the ability to defend yourself if you haven’t fired. terrible if your in a fire fight with multiple enemies (Shooting one after another), but great if your traveling between positions. (Also consuming spall, leading to any non one shots to do only damage to the auto loader.
We know the t series is more susceptible to being one shot, and being a generally worse performing tank overall compared to the other nato tanks.
On the other side though
Nato Tanks (Specifically abrams) with the turret basket tend to “Suffer” (Mentally) A bit more as its still usually a death sentence whether you survive the first hit. (And the feeling of knowing you cant do anything kinda promotes the feeling that nato tanks are worse then t series)
(I just hit the t72B and working on the t80 rn. Definitely died more to one shots, But definitely killed more when not one shot)
Cause lot of us are at the point where playing nothing but top BRs makes us progress in our tech trees.
wach closely a lott spall hitted the ammo and eated it only yelow afther the ammo has passed with 0 damage but in nato mbts the spall liner afther is penetraste is spalling gaijin logic… " Community Bug Reporting System "
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this is fk true… only leopards and abrams have turret basket:D
Gaijin double standards:
Someone is upset that I mimicked the previous meme, writing it off as “off-topic” when it is very on topic.
“Super wrong, soviets were completed with it in the 1960s, nice job looking up a loaded question.”
Try reading a history book - preferably one not penned in the USSR…
For the record: The Soviets were late to the party with ERA like they were with Composites. Regen steering. Thermals. EO Fire control systems. Hell, they were using a clapped out variant of the T-34 V-2 diesel engine until recently - in fact it’s worse - they STILL do. We’re talking about a technology base about a full generation behind that of the Chinese and the West in almost every military technology.
They can’t even work out how NERA works to this day (see Gaijin’s inability to model it correctly).
Maybe im nitpicking here but wouldnt the NATO equivalent to the autoloader be the loader?
Only the top part. The carousel doesnt.
And before that auto loaders had almost no downsides.
You were talking about double standards?
For soviet style ones, they generally had a longer reload, and the tanks themselves had worse survivability because of fewer crew. However, modelled autoloaders weren’t a very big nerf towards vehicles that use them.
Thinking Gaijin has double standards against Russian tanks is laughable, but so is thinking certain top tier NATO ones are worse than what Russian gets. Some are, like the Arietes or Challengers, but the Leopards and potentially the Abrams are better than what Russia gets.
100% agreed with this, especially when it comes to MBTs.
So what’s bias in 2025 ?
Giving 38MT a better seeker than it has ?
Giving ARH missile to BUK which is poopoo anyways ?
The same as it was in 2024. Giving Russia special treatment that other nations dont get. Whether that actually manifests in a dominating winrate is a different question.
I’ve seen cases of preferential treatment across the board.
Across the board, sure. The US getting super powerful planes before everyone and the Rafale making top tier borderline unplayable for months are great examples. But you have to pull examples from all 9 other trees to match the treatment Russia gets consistently. The problem is the sheer quantity and in special cases like the KH38MT also the quality.
Sweden received not one but two Leopards that were better than German ones, which lasted for years.
Rafale getting special seeker on MICA while having overperforming and fictional IR Hammer seeker at the same time.
Germany getting FnF helicopter years before others.
M247 was added years ago with HE-VT ammunition while most others were stuck with “normal” rounds with tracers.
Took me like two seconds to give you several examples.
Awesome and you needed 4 Tech trees for your examples which is precisely what im saying. Youll always find a counterexample that suits you but the simple fact that you have to look at multiple trees to give examples to the treatment one tree gets should be a sign that someting is weird.
