Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

*evidence whatsoever about the KH38MT being mounted on planes

True, i wanted to be nice and make the burden of proof a bit lower.

Whoops, that one said only said mle.

Like most sources regarding the KH38

yeah the only brochure that explicitly states mte is for su-35 which we dont have in game

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iirc its also for su-35e not the normal su-35 so not the one in russian service

su-35 is export designation of su-35s su-35s is what is it called in russian service, su-35 export,
here is su-35s (russian) brochure, it just lists x-38, no specifics.

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2, is quite normal. 1 for light targets.

They tested the concept, which ultimately went no where. The Soviets were the ones to put great effort into the project, but even they got stalled until the 1960s
Similarly, composite armor arose around this time, the T-64 the first tank in the world to showcase composite armor, and later the T-64B to showcase Kontact-1 ERA

First of all: ignoring the fact that gaijin’s own crew interview stated sub-5 is pretty standard for a good loader as someone very kindly pointed out, there’s footage ranging down to sub-3. When you cherrypick your videos it does become real easy to be right all the time :)) I can play to the other extreme: https://youtu.be/En4qe8lLB0s?si=E3BcM1ciJ-h8_2kb
Add the second or so of opening the blast door and he’s still comfortably sub-5.
Plus:
https://youtu.be/e6xvEy_U0To?si=q2aGpFTdn9n8imIe 3-5 seconds

“Combat rate of fire (rounds per minute): 7–8”
First of all: not sure where you got 7-9, but:
I don’t think you wanna play that game. 60/8 is 7.5.

It can load as quick as 3.76secs~

On what basis?

USA tanks get to run free with quicker reloads without documentation

How exactly do you propose somebody documents a human loader rate in the same way as an autoloader? Gaijin has the freedom to implement any number 3~inf seconds, as any are plausible (although if my loader took infinite seconds I probably wouldn’t be happy.) documentation will only ever state the minimum rate of fire, which is 8 for just about every NATO tank.

Gaijins own crew? Lmao.

**Also both your videos are cherry picked, and by far the worst examples of videos. **
1. Both already had shells in their hands aka a lap load.
2. Both were entirely stationary
3. The blast door was open on the first video already.
4. The clips were cut and shortened

Please, go ahead and pick poorer examples to display, all you’ve sent is staged nonsense.

  1. If you take off the factory lock setting of 6.0 secs, and have APFSDS next to APFSDS it can load as quick as 3.76 secs~

  2. How to document a human loader? 10 reloads, 10 people. All start with a close bulkhead, and in the standing idle position as is in game. Then take the average per person, add them all, and divide by 10. Then you will have your average.

I’m merely saying it’s unfair nato tanks load too quickly, and Russian ones are gimped (in terms of the MZ loaders). Because it does put them at a pretty decent disadvantage

Not what I said. Gaijin’s own crew interview. Please don’t twist my words.

Staged? They’re loading the gun. Besides, any video you send showing a reload longer than 5 seconds proves nothing because as I said the reload can be 3~inf seconds inclusive. I have demonstrated a sub-5 reload is possible with a comfortable margin.

“If you take off the factory lock” I’m stopping you there. If step one is modifying the system so it’s no longer functioning correctly it does not count.

Then you’re free to find yourself an abrams, ten qualified loaders, and document it yourself :)

Still with no substantial evidence

Combat rate of 8 rounds per minute is what your own source says but okay.

Because a 1960s pattern autoloader loading two piece ammunition is, shockingly enough, slower than a person.

yes hence they invented the concept of ERA

and again false, composite armor was developed very early after the introduction of ironclad warships, but if you want it for tanks there is an easy example of shermans having been tested with an add on composite armor during WW2

Also sidenote this is hilarious because the second video is an interview and has no actual reload, which demonstrates you didn’t even watch it lol.

also the first clearly shows the loader taking the shell out of the ready rack

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And I did specifically mention “if you add a second or so” for the blast door…
It’s a ~3s reload so add the blast door and it’s still comfortably sub-5.

Your “nu uh” argument isn’t going to work here.

Going through calling the tank, range, etc. yes. The cyclogram data literally says 6 secs.
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A sub 5 reload of a staged video, if I sent an video of an auto loader half way through its reload and called it a 2.5 sec load, that would be disingenuous, which is what you currently are being.

The videos you sent literally are already 2/3 or 1/3 the way through the reload process.

  1. Didn’t twist your words
  2. I’m not advocating for a 3.76 sec reload on the MZ loader, I’m merely stating as fast as it can truly reload. The only reason they lock it to 6.0 secs is to ensure total reliability which is typically 3,000 rounds.

Concept isn’t the true fruition. Soviets completed it in full. Would have to give it to them.

Again, you provide no evidence, and meekly say false as if anyone is going to buy that.

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Боевая скорострельность, выстр./мин — 7—8
Combat rate of fire, rounds per minute — 7–8
From your own source.

He starts with the shell in the ready rack. I would like any actual evidence it’s partway through the reload.

Sure as hell did, because I never referred to “gaijin’s own crew”

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