Yep at the time F-15As were 13.0 while su27s went upto 13.3s(when Fox3 jets came out) . And before that being 12.7 while russian su-27s were 13.0 before the first br compression for that time i think
Always being a step lower favoritism to American jets
Mig 29 12.7 vs F16A 12.3, f16A wins in every regard bar SARH as it doesn’t have one.
.Mig29 smt vs the objectively better block F16ADF is it ? Sitting at 13.3 with aim120s, as well as far as im aware a better radar.
Su27 got dogged on until very recently, the su27sm was too fat and R77s weren’t comparable with the range of 120s.
The su30 actually brought it back a bit and im working towards it to see how it actually is.
Lets not forget F14s sitting at what was it ? 12.0 / 12.3 for the longest time…
Or even when they whwre added having literally nothing that could counter them…
Gaijin plays flavour of the month usually.
The T-series that you call hand hold are at best oen trick ponies.
Meanwhile the Leopard 2A5-2A6 are really good all round tanks. Not to mention the 2A7s/Strv 122s, which are so good that anyone that can’t get at least a 1.5 K/D in them is a mediocre player.
It’s hard to do bad in the Leopards for any self respecting players.
Let’s not forget the F18A at 12.3
They are terrible tanks once you use them compared to the likes of the leopards etc.
Yeah I agree, their only strength is that they punish bad enemies. So you are essentially dependant on your enemies being stupid.
And we were still talking about top tier tanks so maybe read the original comments before you chime in with an unqualified one yourself.
You clearly said tech tree, take the L and be quiet instead of trying to deflect from your ass take
Yeah the US gets handheld af when it comes to top tier air additions usually, im not disputing that.
The SU30 literally beats 2 out of 3 Eurofighters on stats despite being played a ton more.
Yeah tech tree as in nation you dumbo, the context is clearly top tier since thats what we were talking about. Im not deflecting, im explaining the context to you since you obviously didnt follow the discussion
The Su-30SM thrives in the chaotic 16v16 air RB setting while the EFT is a lot better in the smaller scale 1v1 or XvX tournament style setting.
EFT is still the better plane, but that explains the stats.
Cant help it if people dont know how to notch a missile thats basically an Aim-120C5 if not just Russian. Why can the british efts n Rafales beat the su-30s, if the german and italian eft mains cant. Seems like a skill issue there
Yeah so its absolutely fine for the current meta? Thats like saying the F15E is actually better than the Rafale, because the F15E wins a high altitude 1v1
Again Russia players are not automatically better than other nations. As for why the british perform so much better, no idea the only theory i have is that the UK gets paired with France a lot and thats why they do better
“tech tree” being a common colloquialism for two vehicles
sure
whatever you say bud
No “tech tree” being an in game description for nation. Read the comments or let your keyboard rest.
Yeah it is fine for the current meta, just because the EFT is the better plane doesn’t instantly make the Su-30SM bad.
nation for two vehicles isn’t any less contrived
Do you have anything worthwhile to say or are you going to keep tripping over what words i used? Everyone besides you understood what was meant
I would argue that they are under preforming even worse in terms of fin AOA