Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

you can with subcaliber rounds, and HSTVL dart perpetrator dimensions are much larger than the bore caliber suggests

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Depends on people, but for me as long as we operate in the Canon and Breech Torture meta, and gun barrel optics, armour is utterly worthless and I’m better off running a vehicle that sacrifices protection in favor of mobility, firepower, and various utilities.

Gaijin’s whacky code is a big part, but let’s not pretend the majority of the playerbase is actively playing the game instead of just repeatedly rolling the dice until the stars align in their weekly exceptional match…

Have you used russian top tier?

Ive used almost every top tier in the game and generally germany and USA are more coddled.
The leopards are just too easy to use.

Not the norm when I use it chief and fhe CR2s are my second most used top tier MBTs between them.

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Believe me it’s the latter, The L27A1 in my experience is fine providing you actually aim.
Same as how im using the TKX P and type.90s at 12.0 and doing fine with JM33.

If JM33 can one tap a damn T series L2A1 can

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I haven’t and I dont dispute the 2A7 versions are the best tanks in the game. That’s not to say that Gaijin makes a lot of concessions to allow Russian tanks/vehicles to compete with them.
When I say coddled I look at how a 10.7, T-72 with exactly the same autoloader as a later variant will almost with certainty explode or explode with a higher frequency. Take that same loader and tank and slap some bags on the side of it (again no other changes) and it suddenly reduces dramatically.
Same with the T-80B and the T-80BVM. Chinese tanks do not get this luxury despite being the exact same auto loader.

We should remember that while the T-90M is Russias premier tank it has been proven to be using the same composite array as the T-72B (89) There is not a current NATO round in service that would not go through the front of a T-90M. In game inpenetrable barring a tiny weakspot. NATO armour and ammo quality is held back to again allow Russia to compete.

Air is similar, hold back MICA and AMRAAM because R-77 and R-77-1 are a dog poop missile in the real world but not in game

That aside we look at CAS and for months they have had the best CAS the Kh-38s have broken the game. and now LMUR, having the best SAM again because why should Skysabre and SAMP-T be able to fire independant of the Radar system.

No other nation gets so many concensions made in the guise of “balance”

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The hull armor (the composite array) on the T-90M may be (we dont know for sure, but since they use the same hull, 99% its the same) the same as the one on the T-72B, the turret - we have no clue… but the biggest difference is that T-72 hull and turret are covered with K5 ERA and the T-90M with Relict ERA… so… stop once and for all with tha BS about the “mucH NaTo aNti-ERa tipPs”… they haven’t been tested on Relict.

MICA held back??? This is the only ARH missile with 7° notch “window”, every other is with 30°. Do you even play ARB/SB???
Both AMRAAM and R-77/R-77-1 underperforme compared to IRL. In the case of AMRAAM - the seakers . In the case of R-77’s - the seekers and the drag model of the grid fins.

BUK is not the best SAM and never was…

Probably because the launcher vehichles don’t have radars.

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Ignore luque, people who do not play the game tend to send misinformation.

The best air jet is the rafale with currently the Mica em having one of the best seekers in game and turning performance.

Whilst also nato tanks with some of the best armor profiles and dm-53 with some of the highest in game penetration. Along with abrams having a decent round.

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Relikt may offer some protection from new NATO ammo. But in game it works from every angle and that is flat out incorrect and seeing how well it has performed in real world scenarios I would still rather be in a NATO tank engaging said T-90M from 4+km away thanb being in said T-90M. K5 is actually superior to Relikt, Relikts strength lies in you can stack them. Let’s remember that Relikt is just 2 plates sandwiched between an explosive charge (hardly world beating)

MICA is in terms of range, I dont dispute or challenge it is the best missile in game by a long stretch but it should be better it is missing range. As I said held back.
R-77, the grid fins is an interesting one especially now the R-77M and newer Russian missiles have abandoned the design. Saying to everyone it was never a good control surface. 120 is also held back and the seeker alone should be one of the best as it was designed with that in mind. I would add the design ethos behind the 120 was to kill from further ranges you cannot reliably acheive that with the quality of the seeker it has in game. R-77-1 is in many cases superior in game due to the G it can pull the lack of a tracking delay and that the Su-30 can carry 12 of them.

BUK-M3 is joint best SAM because you cannot destroy it in one pass it has 3 lives. Other systems kill the Radar and the system is dead. Skysabre and SAMP-T can fire missiles without the Radar they can even use an IRST systm to do so.

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He’s not wrong in the sense that the MICA’s range is too short for a variety of reasons such as TVC wobble, high drag, lofting profile, and engine parameters.
All ARH are gimped (except the Fakour), but specifically the R-77 and MICA’s issues are about missing critical system that would enable them to work as they should.

So go bug report it.

Lawrence I have been playing the game since the CBT mate.

re read what I said, NATO kit is held back we havent even began to compare NERA armour and how a Leopard 2A7/M1A2 and even a CR2 are all but immune to Svinets. MICA is great but it is held back, reducing the range for balance is holding something back. Leaving Typhoon with a broken, bricked up Radar is holding something back.

DM-53 when everyone is moving to DM-73 and the US equivalent is holding NATO back when Russia do not have a tank that can use Vacuum-1 in game

Most tournies I have seen especially the 4 v 4 ban the Rafale and Typhoon and the Su-30.
So most teams are comprised of Su-27SM more missiles and the excellent R-27ER
MIrage 2000 for the MICA

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If youre in this forum, which is funnily called “russian teams are steamrolling nato” lmao. And complain about rounds or missiles whilst Nato teams have the higher picks across all boards whilst also maintaing the higher winrate. Do you really expect anyone to think nato is being held back in game who even actually touches the game on a competitive level and knows each tank/jet’s weaknesses and strengths and define metas?

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Im talking about mainly ground tourneys, but importantly Squadron battle 8v8s which is a combined arms. That includes some of the best toptier tanks and toptier jets at the start of the season

Even in air tourneys with alot of 13.7/14.0 lineup,
Up until now, the mica missile planes was the dominant jet. So the mirage from china n france.

They had to be removed to allow for balancing. The missile straight up caused team varieties to dip from different nation, and now the tourney/air esports is a mess

All missiles are extensively bug reported, and even you will probably have no issue figuring out why Gaijin won’t out of the blue go out of their way to give a lore accurate MICA to the Rafale in the current state of the game. Also take into consideration how some things are actually engine limitation rather than number tweaks. For example TVC wobble, and dynamic drag.

Anyway I was merely commenting on how delu he may be, the guy was not wrong about the MICA being nerfed.

I havent seen actual credible information on the mica range being nerfed, the missile also from size wise and other aspect is not a 100km range missile like the others, and can reach 50-60kms easily with the rafale’s performance at high altitude, which we all know is crazy good.

You miss the key thing in this discussion and thats…Teams
Russian Teams, not individual vehicles.

The collective Russian teams are demolishing NATO because of the strength of the combined loadout in ground battles.

Mainy from the aviation tree, Mi 28 with LMUR and 2 airframes with Kh-38 end games.
I have seen 3 Mi 28s in a game within 3 minutes and they each amassed 5 kills each with the LMURS.

That is how Russians are steamrolling not even the best tank in the game the Leopard 2A7 (variants) can withstand that.

If that doesn’t work the Russian tanks are within the top 3 best in game. In a controlled team environment with communications you want a tanks with high mobility, high rate of fire and the M1 is probably the best in that regard flat 5 second reload

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MICA’s range is short becous of the battery life…

Additionally, just like how western people get critical of R-77s and their range being bad. I am equally skeptical about the mica range being decent beyond 50kms. And so far even in real life circumstances a nation recently using the rafales failed to fire them at a range of 100kms to defend themselves against a chiniese made jet.

Says alot about the mica EM. Its funny because that was spotted on the rafales being used in said country