The missile has 15km range, yes most players are using it 10km problem is if that sams maximum range is 10km the missile is defeated by the time it reaches the Mi-28.
ADATS has a 12km range the missile becomes hard to control at 8km.
Stormer the same 8km maximum
As I have said numerous times the legacy SAM systems cannot outrange it (excluding the one on it’s team) and the ITO-90
Gaijin nerfed the Ah-64 gun pretty soon after it was added being able to reliably hit targets with great accuracy from 3km away was too strong.
Also every round should be a mini HEAT projectile but it is modelled as HE (or it was)
Oh, the thing i been doing since introduction of KH-38 mind tell me how the is that considering as balance? when the only way to stop something killing my teammate is spawn camping sure my Gripen K/D against air get skyrocket high but still it is the worse experience ever
ofc you don’t need to go that far anybody with brain can dodge saclos SAM even as close as 4-5KM unless its Terrible mistake has been made and with FnF and that DIRCM even easier.
I don’t have Apache when it still has great accuracy by as i remember by the time i got my hand on first Apache (AH MK1) its accuracy already sht.
The range to lock and track the target is 10 km, for anything that is tank sized, for this missile, and at any other distance, or smaller target you will see “point”, which is what you are referring to.
I don’t get why you’re still in denial, it literally won’t track you from any further than 10 km. Being hit from farther away means you are afk and not moving, the helicopter has to be at 10 km or less if you are a moving target, nominal range =/= effective tracking IR lock range.
Probably you should know how the weapon works before spreading misinformation.
10km then and how many SAMs that can intercept it have that range?
Not many so 10km - 12km - 15km it doesnt matter when the Mi-28 has a sphere of protection and can destroy not one but multiple SAMS with it’s single HE LMUR.
I get it feels good when you look at the score board and you have 1 kill in your BMP/BMD and a scout and now you have a Helicopter with 8 fire and forget missiles you fire them off maybe you die, maybe you dont and get 6 kills.
Now you have enough SP to spawn your favourite Kh-38 spewing Su-30! You use the missiles and get 4 kills and 1 with the bomb
Wow you are now top of the leader board with 12 kills your KD looks great and the enemy team is now being spawn camped to death.
You then come to the forum to vehemently defend these systems for how could anyone give up such power. You remonstrate they are not that “good” and it’s a skill issue.
Manually guided spaas like ito, flarak, and even adats are able to dispatch the helicopters when they are at 10/12 km.
Seems like someone here is just changing the goal post after being proven wrong.
No top tier manually guided spaa is bad against helicopters, this is called spreading misinformation.
Anybody have such power yet dare to say not good enough maybe problem is on them not vehicle don’t you think?
lol Only work if that heli pilot is so total ape that completely ignore MAWS LWS and RWR well maybe it does because most Russian heli pilot are like that right?
The helicopter can move it doesn’t need to stay hovering it can lock fire and hide.
8Km-10Km SAM will arrive 2-4 buisness days after that helicopter has returned into cover and likely die from a LMUR.
Just accept it’s so broken.
actually that is true.
AH’s 30mm gun doesnt lead right, depending on your speed and target speed and angle it will fire 1 or 2 aimretingle over or under. Quite easy to test it out on heli PVE or even test drive. But lets not hold breath that it would be fixed, like maximum shooting range of that gun either…
And they didn’t add it’s proximity fused ammunition for “some reason”…🤔
I did recently try in test fight with both MI-28NM vs Apache gun against stationary target (truck)
MI-28NM gun able to hit it up two kilometers in very short time
Apache barely hit that truck until it very close (less than 1000meter) even AH-1Z gun look better in comparison because it able to hit further than that in shorter times
I’ve had an Apache fail to kill a Pantsir after literal 100s of rounds fired within 800m the accuracy is so bad.
Meanwhile any 2A42 is a near guaranteed first round hit from 2km, and magically doesn’t become an un-aimable runaway after that…
also, it been like this for around five or six years now as i remember i got AH MK1 around this time and gun being like that since i got my hand on it
so, sign of fixing has ever been mentioned or make.
Yep, and if you switch mi28 to slow , it is even more accurate, and then KA50/52 is a lot more accurate compared to mi28’s
despite both using the same gun? that weird.
Yep, maybe difference on recoil is since gun is fixed on side of helo on KA’s , but yes. Test drive 50/52 and you can clearly see it is lot more accurate compared to MI’s
In Ka52 it is more accurate to helospawn to enemy spawn laser gunnery , compared to MI.
iirc there is an accepted bug report for its accuracy rn but I dont expect it to get fixed
another two years maybe lol
