Hovering 15km away over the heli spawn. immune to 90% of the new SAMS
Only hard counter is the Mi-28 player is dumb…Or a jet. Even then they have a 30mm Aimboint spewing APDS (something now proven the gun on the Mi-28 physically couldn’t fire)
well at least most of them like typical Russian main are
against sightly functional brain good luck being SACOS or whatever (planes like Eurofighter is only proper way far as i can see thanks to brimstone)
I mean i fly 64D before (a US garbage one) i rarely die to SACOS all you had to do is not flying to high and ready to take cover soon as you hear MAWS and it not hard to do so only took some kind of functional hand and sightly brain.
You should be using the manual guidance spaas and not the automatic ones against helicoptes, relying on a heavier and larger missile for a shot that is 10/12 km at best is betting against that guy’s ability to hear or see.
They just do this to stop any proper discussion. Instead of just admitting yeah bro the LMUR is dumb so is the Kh-38.
Hope Gaijin add your stand off missiles one day…
But no it’s always “LMUR” isn’t even good I much prefer “insert massively inferior NATO missile”
Kh-38…It’s the same as an AGM-65…All the while one combo of Su-30 destroys half a team and Mi 28s clear up the rest.
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ADATS can’t reach and neither can STORMER. ITO and Pantsir maybe the HQ17 are the only ones that have missiles that go 15km
Your choices are try to sneak to the edge of the map by the Heli spawn and hope to snipe them.
Or spawn a jet that is the only counter for most of nations
A good Mi 28 pilot is hovering, with countermeasures dispensing switched off and is all but immune to SAMs
You are omitting that you could even spawn a eurofighter and remove all helis from play, and if the problem is not a helicopter you got sky sabre, tools are at your disposal, you just need to use them.
good luck all it took just functional hand and sightly brain and MAWS and that’s it SACLOS is useless (even before new SAM 64D can dodge SACLOS all day and prefire hellfire if he knows what he is doing)
and with FnF that can fire longer than most SACLOS SAM and DIRCM it even easier to make any SAM useless (unless flying to high which only dumb heli pilot make those kind of mistake)
only proper option now is jet and only hard counter jet for DIRCM is Eurofighter because of laser Brimstone
Maverick or anything is useless (never try TV one yet) left choice is gun and heli have gun too and if that heli have more intelligent than monkey it going to kill you with guns.
Its the spawn cost to do so.
A Typhoon with Brimstone as your Radar missiles don’t work your IR missiles don’t work so it’s your gun
that brings you right into the front of an Mi-28 with as mentioned has an Aimbot turret and shreds you or you trade.
Spending 800Sp to shoot down a helicopter is not a solution.
Sadly the British Ah-64 didnt get upgraded or we could have used STARSTREAK vs the Mi 28 spam
TV one works, but highest vehicle with that is probably f16a which cant really do well at top tier
also they will kill you with gun if they are in mi28 for sure, but ah64 gun sometimes is stupidly bad against aircraft, it like doesnt lead properly so it just wont do anything
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talking about chin turret yeah, I notice that long ago most Russian heli chin gun have more accuracy than Apache against jet for some reason (base on my MI-28NM)
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they also can automaticaly lead from longer ranges
this is also true when compared to AH1Z (which still doesnt get APDS despite using it IRL and Mi28 gets it when there are sources saying that it cant IRL)
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more like can’t even hit sht stationary even as close as 1200meter aways but MI-28 gun able to hit stationary target up to 1600 no problem
ive been hit by Mi28 gun in a moving helicopter from 3-4km because that makes sense
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Mi 28 and Russian 30mm helicopter cannons get access to APDS where as the Ah-64 uses an HEDP shell which will maybe crit an aircraft the APDS will penetrate the aircraft and in cases snipe the pilot.
What no way the US ever used APDS on a helicopter? How did they control the Sabot petals from hitting the heli??
Eurofighter is literally the best thing you can use to shoot any helicopter down, I don’t see the drawback from spawning it after killing a couple enemies : you also would be able to shoot down things like su-30 really easily by airspawncamping them.
Also I don’t get your fixation with “15 km” range on Lmur when the lock is at 10 or less for a tank sized target, but I assume you don’t have the vehicle and are just talking without any information at this point, at no point you will see a mi-28nm with lmur shooting you at 15/20 km, unless he’s using the point function and not “track”
most case when i fly NM i use HE it’s more effective against aircraft than APDS but still its gun is more accurate than Apache that spread like crazy and can’t hit sht even stationary one more than 1000m+
The missile has 15km range, yes most players are using it 10km problem is if that sams maximum range is 10km the missile is defeated by the time it reaches the Mi-28.
ADATS has a 12km range the missile becomes hard to control at 8km.
Stormer the same 8km maximum
As I have said numerous times the legacy SAM systems cannot outrange it (excluding the one on it’s team) and the ITO-90
Gaijin nerfed the Ah-64 gun pretty soon after it was added being able to reliably hit targets with great accuracy from 3km away was too strong.
Also every round should be a mini HEAT projectile but it is modelled as HE (or it was)
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Oh, the thing i been doing since introduction of KH-38 mind tell me how the is that considering as balance? when the only way to stop something killing my teammate is spawn camping sure my Gripen K/D against air get skyrocket high but still it is the worse experience ever
ofc you don’t need to go that far anybody with brain can dodge saclos SAM even as close as 4-5KM unless its Terrible mistake has been made and with FnF and that DIRCM even easier.