Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

The post you replied to shows photographs of the R-77 double pylons, which are identical in spacing to the in-game ones between the engines.

Su-30SM/Su-35 as examples have the same exact center-line store positions as shown in a follow up post:

I spoiler images because they can elongate posts too much.

Su-35 adds ~11.5 inches of wingspan each side, which also adds more fuel to the aircraft.

The pictures u sent of the su30 are from war thunder
The pictures u posted of actually real double racks are from a Su35.

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The photos in the follow up post show an Su-30SM [as identified via the forward canards] and Su-35 having the same exact engine distance between them and the same exact center-line.

Not sure why you’re so against evidence.

You are the only biased guy here, you want evidence for every bit of Russian equipment, while obviously for the US there are different standards and everyting was designed to fit with everything.

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Im sorry, so recognizing that certain missiles are designed to be compatible with previous launch rails and pylons while asking for evidence that missiles that clearly use unique launch rails are compatible with certain pylons is being biased now?

And you obviously know, that they are EXACT the same, it’s just plug and play, nothing had to be changed.
But you as aviation engineer know that, obviously.

given that every source states that JAGM is compatible with the same launch rails as helifire along with the fact that every manual states AGM65D is compatible with the same launch rails as AGM65B is clearly difficult for you to understand,

To be fair - that’s one of the whole Shticks with NATO Standard stuff. The basic idea is that you make as much backwards compatible as possible - effectively allowing you to fit later weapons fits to older platforms. The main embuggerance is often firmware/software (getting the weapon and plane to ‘talk’ to eachother).

The Soviets (later Russians) never really had that mindset - which is one of the reasons why you’ll note that virtually each OKB and almost each aircraft produced has it’s own distinct pylons, hardpoints, etc. It’s also one of the reasons why they never really standardised a targeting pod that would actually fit on more than one or two aircraft…

(Quite funny really, given their fondness for top-down centralisation…)

But the problem is YouTubers never show their stats, and they cherry pick the best games for “content”

Which just means it’s physical capable to carry the missile, but you don’t have proof it can actually use, control, aim and fire it due to software, avionics etc.

To be honest I don’t even know what people are talking abt anymore but if anyone said anything about the jagm and ah64e i just want to say it’s amazing, and I do think it maybe needs a tiny tiny buff but nothing more. In my opinion it’s perfect as it is

but we do, for JAGM we know that they only need to update software to make a platform compatible, and we know the rails and pylons have all the necessary connections because they can mount other missiles that use both SAL and MMW guidance along with manufacturer statements showing compatibility

we have none of this for LMUR on inner pylons of MI28

Using a non 12.0 abrams for example, vs a 11.7 abrams… what on earth does it change? Practically nothing.
Therefore, just because I haven’t purchased my leclerc and so on doesn’t mean I don’t understand how the hell the game plays.

I am neutral, most forum members take offense that I am, and try to paint me as some villain…

YouTubers often put “biased, broken, Overpowered” on Russian vehicles but “balanced, good, prototype” on non Russian vehicles. Why? It’s a ploy to get you to click on the video and watch what is balanced or broken and OP.

In reality 60% of tanks in the game are well balanced, there is outliers that are super good, and super bad.

For example, Spookston has in his thumbnail “Prototype” on the T58, which is a horrendously broken and OP tank, often I get a 50/50 split between full uptier or downtier. In either game, I’m usually getting 5-6 kills a match 1-2 deaths. If I’m actually not sleeping in my tank, I can get as many as 14-16, and 0 deaths.

So yeah, the narrative is very one sided, mainly due to gaijin being a Russian company.

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it should at least get its proxy fuse and blast frag/HE frag effect of its warhead

along with flight profile fixed to loft higher (same with hellfire and almost every other missile that should loft)

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Btw. They also added igla or whatever manpad it’s using to inner pylon of 28nm too. With single-time expo pics…
Gaijin’s way of reaslism is just “special” for selected ones

I know it should loft a tiny margin more when it’s coming to the end of it’s flight, but in my opinion it lofts CRAZY much and is way better than the agm114k in lofting, but thats just my personal opinion

Agree

I think most stuff is balanced right now and i am very happy, but that may be cause i got a new heli. To be fair tho the helis are kinda broken, ive gotten so many anti airs in the ah64e it’s actually laughable

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right now it impacts ~30-35 degrees from the ground where from footage and images of testing it should be ~40-65 degrees

its not high of a bar because hellfire lofting is insanely under done in game and has a 2+ year old accepted bug report for it, but apparently gaijin can only make russian missile loft properly

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Well… other than the Flakpanzer and T58… Jesus.

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Just saying usually when people waltz in and boast how much more experience they have then they should have actually played the stuff they talk about.
Yapping about

loses a lot of credibility if you havent even played the top of the line stuff others work with especially when someone refuses to give even a single example.

Mhm sure