Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

[luque13]

So you want photographic evidence when you cannot even provide me with a simple design showing 8 LMURS is possible.

Despite you being provided with Data sheets from the US Army (the operator of the airframe) and Lockheed the manufacturer of the missile.

And yes of course the Vikhrs point is relevant, if the new missile shared the same launch rails then you could make the case for it. As mentioned LMUR uses a new launch system and even in combat they are using it no more than 4 per airframe.

I would also add why do Russian helicopters get APDS as a belt choice

[H_ngma]

How about a very cool not at all digitally altered, real photograph by lockmart

[MotorolaCRO]

@luque13

So you want photographic evidence

Yes I want that as brochures clearly don’t work.

@luque13

As mentioned LMUR uses a new launch system and even in combat they are using it no more than 4 per airframe.

Not using more than 4 per airframe = can’t use more than 4
Brilliant.

[luque13]

It’s like arguing how do we know Aim120C (being the exact same size) can fit on the same pylons as the Aim120B

Well because that was one of the design requirements

[luque13]

No single image or diagram shows more than 4

[tripod2008]

@MotorolaCRO

Not using more than 4 per airframe = can’t use more than 4

Well it’s why F-16’s can’t use their inner wing station for ordnance.

[luque13]

Russian players are very passionate about this game and they don’t like it when they are held to the same standards as the rest of the player base.

[MotorolaCRO]

@luque13

It’s like arguing how do we know Aim120C (being the exact same size) can fit on the same pylons as the Aim120B

Something being the exact same size doesn’t prove that they are compatible in anything more than just the mounting system.

@luque13

No single image or diagram shows more than 4

I’m still looking for images of 64E with 16 JAGMs mounted.

[luque13]

Keep looking unlike Russia the US isn’t at war you are not going to find an Ah-64E fully loaded for anti armour operations.

Some more diagrams, sources

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@luque13

Keep looking unlike Russia the US isn’t at war you are not going to find an Ah-64E fully loaded for anti armour operations.

Why would you mount 8 LMUR’s in the war Russia is at right now ?
Cold war with huge assumed tank asasaults is over.

[MotorolaCRO]

@luque13

Keep looking unlike Russia the US isn’t at war you are not going to find an Ah-64E fully loaded for anti armour operations.

Ever heard of shows where you flex your military muscles ?

[luque13]

You probably wouldn’t, But at the same time why would you send 4 Mi-28 with 2 LMUR missiles when one or 2 could fulfill the task.

During the armoured couter attack towards Robotyne we saw fully loaded Ka-52Ms with maximum Vikhrs payloads.

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

These pictures clearly show that it fits with multiple pylons and is probably just a choice to not mount 8 of them at the same time.

[luque13]

USA doesn’t need to put an extra 8 missiles on a chopper to do that.
Especially when any customers know it can carry more.

Documents confirm it.

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@luque13

You probably wouldn’t, But at the same time why would you send 4 Mi-28 with 2 LMUR missiles when one or 2 could fulfill the task.

Probably because it’s safer to do it that way then bet everything on 1 card ? Not that hard to comprehend.

[Fanta_3412]

Of course you do m8

[luque13]

Sadly friend thats a Mi-8 and a Ka-52M not an Mi-28
One is a heavy lift helicopter and the other is Russias heaviest gunship/attack helicopter.

Those are also the single Pylons, here is the dual one.

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@luque13

Sadly friend thats a Mi-8 and a Ka-52M not an Mi-28

Thx Sherlock.

[MotorolaCRO]

@luque13

During the armoured couter attack towards Robotyne we saw fully loaded Ka-52Ms with maximum Vikhrs payloads.

12 Vikhrs can be carried by two pylons, leaving two open for other things.
8 LMURs take up all the available space.

@luque13

USA doesn’t need to put an extra 8 missiles on a chopper to do that.

Having 16 is a bigger fear factor than having 8.

[Fanta_3412]

@MotorolaCRO

Having 16 is a bigger fear factor than having 8.

Having 8 that are guaranteed kill is better than having 16 that suck