Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

They could do that for balance or just simply give them laser Brimstones with more range and speed.

POINT can transfer into TRACK if something comes in the seeker’s FOV at certain ranges (this range should be ~1.5km for Hammer), so this is pretty much LOAL implemented if you discard the fact you need to establish LoS before firing off your missile.

If you fire your missile from 15km away you’ll need to wait until the missile is 1.5km away from the target for your missile to actually start tracking a moving target. This would make moving targets extremely hard to hit consistently if you launch from any decent range (like 10km+).

yeah i get that but since we dont have a possibility to lock a target while the missile is in flight (except for laser guidance) the hammer would not be able to engage a tank if the IR lock wasnt implemented as is right now, correct?

You should ask Gaijin why they implemented IR missiles with POINT/TRACK and why they don’t work with GNSS. Probably deemed too strong because they can do everything on their own, you don’t need to do anything.

So you can prove the missile not existing by finding that paper trail.

I don’t know for sure but if POINT track wasn’t a thing in the game, you’d probably need to come at 1.5km away from the target to launch the IR Hammer, or ~13km for IR missiles nowadays.

Gaijin probably saw this as an issue and implemented half-assed LOAL by using POINT track.

yes the 38mt is a paper missile and shouldnt be in game

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Problem is, the mechanics as they are in WT are not really fit for hammer

Missile is fired on a GPS point using an image that can catch the fighting scene and the intended target (using TGP)

It cruises to the pre set location using GPS. Once over its “destination”, it goes in a vertical dive, and 1.5km away from the ground it takes a first picture to make sure the set and the target is still present. If the target moved, it realigns, and takes a second picture to make the final adjustments.

By how much it can realign is, afaik, unknown (an educated guess would be something around 200m probably). It would probably result in a less capable missile against fast moving ground vehicles, but basically the same (or dare i say even better) when targetting a slow moving target (such as multivehicle SPAAs). Basically becoming more specialized

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Once again, you want me to prove the non existence of something

Not how it works

Yeah i get that so i was right in my intial assessment that Gaijin was lazy and half assed the implementation to avoid putting actual LOAL in the game and instead took the next best thing

Far less capable missile against moving ground vehicles.*

Something getting scrapped and abandoned leaves a paper trail, which pretty much confirms things have been scrapped.

Nothing tells us it has been scrapped. It may be on halt due to some little issues i won’t get into ?

I don’t need to prove it’s been abandonned, it’s not the subject. The subject is : is the missile existence proven ? The answer is currently no

POINT is pretty much LOAL mechanic but with mandatory LoS before firing. After the launch I think those two will behave pretty much identical. That LoS was probably set to be mandatory as they didn’t want people to launch IR missiles that have ~13km TRACK lock range from total cover.

It’s on halt by getting marketed in 2024 ?

Just an example of how something can be proven to be non-existent.

And you are sleeping on the T-10M.

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Yeah so as i stated initially its a bandaid fix to somewhat get a similar capability without actually putting in the work for the actual, real mechanics.

But why are the possibilites only:

  1. It should not be in the game because its cancelled so there must be a cancellation document
  2. It should be in the game, because there is no such document and we have a brochure
    what about the third option tho
  3. Its not cancelled therefore theres no cancellation document but the program hasnt actually produced a fired and tested prototype and therefore it should not be in the game
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Ok, so why is the optical aperture Blue, and opaque in the brochure image? And that the Known mockup is similar.

I know, but no one would touch the POINT track ranges, just the TRACK one as that’s when the missile’s seeker actually starts to actively track a target.

38MTE doesn’t look to be something that’s still in the prototype stage, as it’s literally been listed and buried in the brochure with probably dozen other weapon systems. You don’t do that with something you need funding on.

Maybe but there is not a single proof of production, no export orders and not even a documented test or anything like that so why should it be in the game?

That’s a Su35.

Either way the current doblue R77 racks between the engines are completetely out of place

Yes, You can mount the AGM-65D to the LAU-88/A or LAU-117/A you just lose out on the ability to correlate all of the seekers to the same boresight, and have them be remembered between launches.

Which is why the LAU-88A/A and LAU-117A/A are preferred.

It wouldn’t retain all functionality, though.

Again, you would lose out on functionality and need to include an -9 pin to 11 pin adapter.

It’s not Coolant related, the -9L moves the Coolant onboard, its the Cabling that causes the issue.

If that were the case where is the F-16A-15ADF’s A2G ordnance?

They do the AGM-119A, has LOAL.

Do I need to bring up the specified “NEΔK” value of .270 kelvin, and needing a Delta of 4 to maintain a track in the brochure? It’s not tracking a tank at any kind of range, All it should be good for is Ships and large installations.

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Oh, and by the way all three relevant reports are still awaiting implementation.

It’s been more than a year since they were “Accepted”, at this point.

And we can’t get later Stingers for the ATAL, because…

AH-64E V6 Radar

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