well it doesnt, it actually makes it harder because NATO cant use CAS while russia just decimates the entire team with their CAS
if the team is completely incompetent and doesnt cap points but instead camp and spam CAS they will lose sure but they would have lost anyways even if CAS wasnt in the game because they are just bad
but existence of this pantsir is completely unwarranted and makes matches against russia really unfair
CAS loses matches, so Pantsirs stopping NATO players from spawning CAS over more tanks helps NATO teams win as they have more spawn points than the enemy.
and then comes a su34 and kills 6 people at once and mi28 kills all the rest and there went your spawnpoints and suddenly you find yourself spawncamped by t90m and t80bvm with nowhere to move because if you even try to go to a point you eat a missile from the air
you can also cut down CAS costs a lot by spotting
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@WalletWarrior69
Su-34 that kills no one cause it was shot down by SAMP/T.*
T-90Ms aren’t fast enough or powerful enough to spawn camp.
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you mean the sampt that was already killed by a mi28/ARM or a GNSS kh38 fired from airfield where it cant even touch the su34?
or some random terminator that couldnt be killed because it just deflects everything?
it doesnt matter if the t90m is mobile enough when there is no one to stop it because the entire flank is dead from CAS
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Because it’s broken as shit
There is nothing in any other tree even remotely as powerful as the pantsir
Oh btw, pantsir SM gets guns too so it can defend itself against tanks
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Couple posts above:
Also we got another fresh one:
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The hyperdeadly hypersonic hypermissile of hyperdeath™ is also really good at killing tanks.
It almost comical how the meta was long range TV missile salvos and russia got the only missile SAM that can deal with targets at ranges greater that 10 km, now that the meta has shifted to magical hyperdeadly DLIRCM of hyperdeath™ spamming FNF munitions, russia suddenly gets a new SPAA that is a prefect counter to the new meta with mach boogaloo missiles and dozens of small munition interceptors.
BTW, where is the new japanese SPAA? Theirs is now the one with the lowest K/D and K/S, so why are we not getting a new one like russia did after one patch???
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we get this treatment only for russia the same reason we get communists and their symbols (illegal in some european countries btw) glorified in historic events but wont even get good german people in them
because snail is russian no matter how much they push the agenda they are based in cyprus or whatever
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Surprised none of you who play more than 20 games at top tier aren’t differentiating between RU ground performance and CAS/anti-air
RU tanks are pretty average when you ignore Gaijins garbage buggy volometric problems, which happen more often with RU ERA. Makes them feel the most “BS” even though they aren’t that good.
But RU has a number of small advantages that were clearly a balancing decision. The addition of the Pantsir SM is a prime example. If you ignore the CAS vs. SPAA balance and compare Pantsir SM to other TTs SPAA it’s obviously in a class of its own. As was the Pantsir 1 forever when it was added.
In past patches RU had a clear advantage with auto cannon support vehicles too, such as the 2s38 that was very effective against drones (drones provide a huge tactical advantage if someone uses them to scout) and helicopters. Even currently RU spaa is much more effective against drones than many other SPAA such as the SAMPT because they can actually intercept close targets and they have a cannon.
Pantsir 1 still very effective at 13.0 and every RU player gets 1 for free. It’s small advantages that add up to give a clear edge. I’ve never seen multiple Apaches hovering over the battlefield when playing 13.0, but I have seen multiple Mi-28s do it while spamming LMUR and being untouchable.
When I try to play CAS against RU I almost always instantly spawn in and am targeted by SPAA and multiple jets because they always have air advantage.
The BMPT also is another example. RU given both a TT and premium version of a support vehicle that doesn’t compare to other TTs. If compared to other top tier auto cannon vehicles like the EBRC Jaguar, it has similar performance while being much more armored. The trade off of auto cannon vehicles has been poor survivability
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Let’s imagine that for some reason the MIG23 was 9.0, had 4 R23R and the missiles weren’t bad, how long would it have taken the community to jump screaming “russian bias!!!”
that is the most unrealistic scenario and pointless post I have seen
F3H sparrows arent even good, the complainers are crybabies that they cant fly into space anymore or have to turn to dodge it
the missile is so bad that your k/d is barely over 1?
My F3H WR is at 80%, every game I play with it, 1/3 of the enemy team dies befire the first merge… How is this balanced… Oh yeah, it’s american vehicle doing it so it’s okay
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What month has passed? But guys y-y-you don’t understand flavor of month and such, abrams is no good.
Abusing undertiered IPM and 12.0 Abrams goes hard. Kinda sad 11.7 stats are ruined by adats for M1A1. Otherwise it would be another 52%
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They have loads of complaints about it. But it is an event vehicle so rarer to see than a Yak.
Same greviance is being used on the Tisma…
Its an event vehicle with a bomber damage model and it cleans lobies while taking crazy damage.
???
I realise it is not an event vehicle, had in my head it was.
I have hardly played the US air tree. If it is problematic it needs to be rebalanced.
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yeah its tech tree
but was so awful pre sparrow buff that you never saw it
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