Yeah, because those are the June 2026 stats.
I mean it’s widely accepted that minor nation players are generally better than major nation players.
Which makes it even more interesting that the US SEPv3 has higher stats than the British (Australian) SEPv3
Duh because Us version is straight up better thats why.
Also according to latest stats Abrams performance getting worse and worse compare to initial release which clearly indicates that those stats will not much longer in near future.
That always happens, even the T-90M arena stats are getting worse and worse compared to release (hard to imagine given how bad it’s stats have been already).
Whats funny about this is that ive seen plenty of British players talk about how well they’d perform compared to major nation players if they got a major nation tank.
So true. So many of the more well known British mains on this forums have been performing incredibly mid or even mediocre in the SEPv3, it’s just funny at this point.
Care to explain why Brit win rates at top tier just happen to have bumped up since their addition then?
49% to 52% in the space of a month from June to July. Before that it was around 46%. The only additions to Britain were the two Abrams.
Or does that sort of undermine your narrative a tiny bit…? Were you rather hoping people didn’t actually look up the numbers?
For the month of July btw :
I think you might have do some backpedalling…
Because they got much better tanks…
That doesn’t change what he said, being: “So many of the more well known British mains on this forums have been performing incredibly mid or even mediocre in the SEPv3”, which is true.
Old Renzo’s been banging the drum that British teams wouldn’t do better if given Abrams.
Yet statistically, most of us seem to be doing very well with something other than a Challenger… obviously ENOUGH have been doing better than mid or mediocre otherwise it wouldn’t be ahead of the CR2s in stats terms would it?
By all means swing in and try to defend him - but he’s been charging this particular petard for a while now… makes it all the more enjoyable when he gets hoisted by it.
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Then please do find and send some good us players cause i cant handle this anymore.
Surprise surpise another loss.
Compare to Abrams it lost almost nothing in terms of K/D ratios Renzo, thats just half baked claim.
And how many of them unlocked british M1A2 or better yet how many experienced British players are playing British tanks?
Most of them switched to US since they recieved 2 new top tier additions while Britian recieved worse version.
Such a bad counter argument gotta say.
I’ll wait for him to verify that.
I find that hard to believe, considering off the top of my head, the British mains i’m aware of perform rather poorly in ground.
These people being Morvran_, Rzi(some numbers), luque13, and ScimitarsCurse.
You yourself are not performing well either.
Its rather obvious that the same players would perform better in a SEPv3 vs a Chally, the v3 is significantly better after all. However the British v3 players are not performing better than American ones, even though i’ve seen the opposite being implied time and time again.
“However the British v3 players are not performing better than American ones, even though i’ve seen the opposite being implied time and time again.”
By all means show these implications being made. I’ll wait.
I haven’t even got either of the Abrams - which you’d know that looking up my stats.
Black Night and British v3 have about the same amount of games played, both being around 135k. As for the players, they are doing rather well, with v3 and BN being at #5 and #12 for K/D at 12.7.
However mine and his statement was for British players on this forum in particular, i’ve yet to see a British main here perform better in the British v3 vs the global average for it.
I’m not sure if this is really true.
I’ll swing back and send some when i’m available again.
Yeah I noticed, which is why I made a broad statement about ground overall.
Seems to me you’re struggling with numbers dear boy.
The claim was made that BRITISH players were bad - this terrible performance at TT being irrespective of the vehicles available to them.
The claim has been debunked. The best you can do is cherry pick a few names and think that somehow offsets the considerable (look at the numbers of games played) uptick in performance of British teams since the addition.
Feel free to bring my stats into it. I don’t pretend to be anything other than an average player with average stats in virtually every metric.
Must give you some sort of fulfilment to point that out ‘you are not doing so well’ so if that keeps you going - go right ahead. Doesn’t change the numbers or facts on the ground - which would imply you’re struggling to make a decent counterargument.
Oh ım sure considering how much trash us teams boosted up suddenly.
Funny they are slowly becoming trash once again with days and days.
Well I don’t really support this, i’ll say that. British players are performing rather well with the introduction of v3, just not better than US ones.
However, what I will say, is that British players are not good. Not bad, not good, just mediocre-decent. Which is not a bad thing, I don’t think any TT has genuinely good players across the board.
I don’t really understand this.
I was talking about players on this forum, I already acknowledged that in a global perspective, British players are doing rather well with the new stuff (APHE, v3).
My original statement never targeted anyone in particular, but now that we go into specifics, of course I would name the most well known British mains on this forum. Nothing wrong with being an average player.
“I don’t really understand this.”
The claim - British players will not do better if given better tanks. Stats would indicate otherwise.
“I was talking about players on this forum, I already acknowledged that in a global perspective, British players are doing rather well with the new stuff (APHE, v3).”
Players on this forum =/= British players in general. Anymore than Alvis should be viewed as the average US player… See above.
“Nothing wrong with being an average player.”
So your comment of “You yourself are not performing well either.” is… in aid of what exactly? My stats have nothing to do with the claim/counter above. You were the one who decided to go down that route which is a non-issue - for reasons best known to yourself.
Idk if anyone said this here. The statement literally contradicts itself, any nation would do better if given better stuff.
I’m aware. I already acknowledged this, maybe multiple times now.
Except Alvis doesn’t main any nation as far as i’m aware. I think lolman345 is a good example of the average US player.
It was in aid of my counterpoint to you saying “Yet statistically, most of us seem to be doing very well with something other than a Challenger”, but now that I look back, I missed the fact that that was from a global standpoint, rather than this forum bubble.
