I have never stated that arena aps is better than trophy aps I have serious doubts about all aps working effectively in irl conditions (against air launched missiles) since I have been following several conflicts for a number of years. I do beleive it is a marketing strategy in stating superlatives about weapons systems which end up costing the lives of many people. ERA has been proven both in combat and in tests it works (one time that is) and depends against what and the conditions surrounding it. ERA alone is not enough. Trophy, Arena etc. do indeed work under the right conditions and surroundings they are limited in scope, tanks in general are no longer the primary weapon of choice since they can be countered by many things, still important but their reputation has taken a major hit due to many different threats on the battle field which they cant counter.
Otherwise in-game shananigans will always occur, and by the way your B3 and B3A arena should be hit by attacka missile even with arena, its not a gurantee interception :). Enjoy the game I will eventually grind the Merkava.
Those tanks are getting destroyed because they are used in combat way way more than western tanks. ERA works once not 5 to 7 times . Once the era has been removed then it is up to primary armor. Most of the tanks are destroyed by many drones slaming into their weakest spot, since fiber drones are operated and guided in live image. We saw kangoroo tanks and 2a6 including belly up challies in similar positions as their ukr/rus counter parts 10km away from the frontline in most cases.
As for the Merkavas being hit, trophy system in those videos did not diploy can be for several reasons. However image was incoclusive and I am fairly sure in those images tanks were not destroyed due to armor, Merkavas biggest advantage vs heat projectiles.
Germany has bought plenty of fake systems historically speaking “Massive tigers in limited quantities , quadratische praktisch gut” principle but not effective in 3 thousand km environment.
Anyways we are getting far away off topic on APS systems turning into tank v tank scenarios. Enjoy the game and stay safe.
Two years ago one of them was indeed stationary and not firing while being hit by the Iranian top down missile (counter to spike or direct copy), was it parked, or in combat mode hard to tell but the aps system was on it, the distinct side of the turret was clearly present in image once it struck it. Can it be turned off sure, but trophy did not deploy at all in that specific video.
This statement “believe me Germany and so many other European nations wouldn’t buy a fake system” they did it in the past, the refernce was about the past and the fact that investment in military contracts does not always work out is also true. Nothing to do with trophy its a general statement about nations bying into incredibly expensive weapons systems that are not worth, hint (F-35, Grippen).
“Nothing to do with trophy its a general statement about nations bying into incredibly expensive weapons systems that are not worth, hint (F-35, Grippen).”
This alone tells me you are doing a Gaijin-Special.
Decision-Based Evidence Making.
You’ve settled on a conclusion (APS doesn’t work) and are now basically trying to fill in the gaps. I suppose you’ve also worked out that F-35 cannot possibly work either. Or Gripen. Any other well-regarded and in many cases combat-proven weapons systems you don’t think work?
Best get ringing all those Militaries around the world then…they obviously need your input ASAP!
yes because when a tank its off nothing works, the engine makes most of the power to the systems works, how do you expect the APS works if its not even ON?
I’d directly link footage of the engagement that was released by one of the parties, but that’d get removed, but it’s not like you see much other than an impact and secondary explosion and burning objects considering it’s a regular camera taking footage at night of burning objects so the contrast is blown out.
The militaries should be contacting me :) Give them advice on not wasting money :) F-35 overpriced jet, money diverted away from something that works F-22.
Youre right, no one cares what things cost but that was also not the point. The point was that the initial claim of “nations bying into incredibly expensive weapons systems that are not worth, hint (F-35, Grippen).” Is a dumb statement made even dumber by the comparison to an even more expensive weapon system.