Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

Russian tanks only have bad reverse gears they are still amongst the best in terms of mobility otherwise including getting into position, Gun depression once again doesnt matter as like 80 percent of the maps in game dont even have enough of hill on them for you to use gun depression. Having better armor that is less forgiving is literally never going to be a downside. The cramped interior of russian tanks prevents spall from spreading and results in less components being hit or damaged currently.

Also the leopards have worse mobility and better firepower but do shoot slower than an abrams however they are still better tanks because of the armor. Infact its the armor that makes them so good because if you recall when the 2a5 and 2a6 first were in the game the armor on them was terrible and they were amongst the worst top tier mbts

Reverse counts towards mobility.
Bad reverse = bad mobility

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Partially disagreed, because having that good armor usually comes at significant downsides if you aren’t playing the 2A7s/122s.

T-90Ms for example will rarely be able to forcr favorable engagements, because it will always be late everywhere. This is exactly why the T-90M is a decent sniper and a very mediocre brawler.

Weren’t they broken af on addition?

I can’t remember since I wasn’t playing that tier when they were added

The t90m in my opinion is a great brawler because you get relikt bags on the side which allows you to just pull some bs angling and eat shots all the time along with a really unforgiving front and at that range penn doesn’t matter. I’d say they arent very good snipers because nato gets the advantage of its poor armor not being a factor anymore and having higher levels of penn. But once again you have like three sniping maps and 14 cqc maps

No they were broken after they got their armor updated on release they were god awful tanks.

Leopard 2A7s are good because they not just have good armour, but good mobility, gun traverse/depression as well as amazing firepower.

They also have the superior internal layout and ammunition storage which boosts survivability.

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The 2a7 is the best tank in game because it literally does everything better than almost every tank in the game.

You can just, not shoot the Relikt.

T-90s can’t side-scrape due to reverse gear, the reload means anyone can out reload you or push you freely after you fire.
CQC fights need fast reloads, T-90s don’t have that

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Abrams firepower is actually superior to leopard 2.

2nd best round with much better reload.

Abrams has superior ammunition layout (no hull ammo)
Pretty sure Abrams also has superior mobility.

Abrams also gets HEATMP.

The armour just makes the 2A7 more forgiving

So you’re saying that despite the advantages of the abrams mobility and firepower that armor makes the leo a better tank?

No, it just makes the leopard more forgiving.
Not better.

They’re pretty much equal, although a highly skilled player will do better in an abrams than a leopard

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So what your saying is armor matter in a top tier tank.

I’m saying armour isn’t the priority.
Mobility + firepower are more important

It’s mediocre firepower and garbage mobility make the T-90M one of the worst brawlers at top tier.

I love facing them in a brawl, because they are mostly a free kill for me at that point.

But worse vehicle will limit player maximum output. No matter how good player is, they will always perform worse in ghibli than in tram or su25t.

unless its the leo where the armor makes it better than the abrams which has better firepower and mobility though right?

Idk I enjoy facing russian tanks in long range where my ariete has all its downsides removed and instead get to play on equal footing now.

No, I said it makes it more forgiving, not better.

Stop misunderstanding what I’m saying

In fact, I even indirectly said the Abrams is better.

This is like saying a pro soccer player will be limited in output during a football match lol.