More players playing said tank leads to lower overall stats. T series tanks are excellent, the profile and ERA give a distinct advantage in the CQB maps we commonly see.
If the Leopard 2A7 variants are S tier the T-80BVM is certainly A tier.
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Russian tanks not top tier lowest KD. Top tier lowest KD is Germany C tech armor Leopard2s
Top M1s KD also weak to Russian top tanks
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im fk tired to shot bmpt in side and get 0 damage afther this u are completly anhilated is so hard ho fix nera huh? really no overperform…
T-80s are decent
T-72/90 are not.
The armour is pretty useless when they can’t reload quickly enough or retreat back into cover thanks to their mobility.
Low A tier at the highest, but it could even be arguable to put them in high/top B tier.
Cute how you cropped out the 2A7
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1.40 ,BVM is 1.36 This proves they power not difference
Still at a 43.3% WR. How bizarre.
People can argue all day about which MBT is better, but it doesn’t change this one fact: if you want to win more often, you have to play Russia.
This is what upsets me the most about the current state of things. I hope to see this situation change in the future.
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Blame the maps, on city and CQB maps the tanks are good because of their ERA, but on maps with hills, slopes and trees anything is better than a T tank. German WR have been known to be low even before the BMPT was added.
I use T90M hold the point and gain 11 kill 3000SP. Only low level players would overlook the excellent frontal armor of the Russian tanks because of their slow reversing speed or poor aiming angle.
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Because having a decent MBT doesn’t really matter. Not only were the 2A7V and the Abrams nerfed several times. Including via the turret basket and co. Ad the 2A7V now needs an Ace crew to have the same reload as Russian stock tanks.
Their line ups absolutely suck, hard. Germany has absolutely atrocious CAS across the board. And it shows. And while they have an okay SPAA. It gets hard countered by Mi28NM and the new Pantsir is a single piece vehicle that in War Thunder outperforms the IRIS-T by leagues while being easier to use.
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Yes Germany faced problems are not limited to BMPT alone .The Leopard 2 series was excellent in the past, but excessive weakening has made them no longer powerful.
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Okay? It’s not like the exact same thing can’t be done with the Leo 2s or M1A2s, possibly even with less effort put in.
Don’t get me wrong, that was a nice match you had, but what does it prove exactly?
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You know its only russian with no reverse gear tanks can hold points!!! Its impossible for nato tanks to do that.
I think the tournament players just dont know that ahah!! They must be not thinking correctly for only using nato tanks in tourneys for holding or attacking.
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If you want to win more often, play in a squad
It’s a known thing that you can farm wr by playing in a squad of good players.
Just saying
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The German top tier lineup is pretty good though.
EF AESA, 2A7, less armoured leopard 2s and a mostly solid AA.
The only issue with it that I see is LDIRCM overperforming
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which in ground battles does not mean much…
good? yes… but on par with russians? not even close.
use some grey matter you have between ears man… because russian tanks are smaller is it easier for them to survive longer in positions because moving tanks have to shoot with pinpoint accuracy on the move to be able to frontally kill them while other nations can’t do the same… huge frontal plate on abrams or no armor israelis etc…
This disproves Lawrences point how?
Stuff like the Abrams and Merkava is played more in Tournaments than Russian MBTs and the difference really isn’t close.
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Use some common sense yourself before you spew nonsense like usual, because your argument still makes no sense.
I literally stated pro players still use nato tanks over every type of situation. Because mobility is far more important than some weakspot you have issues in shooting. I dont know if its your skill for aiming or you dont know what russian weakspots are lol.
But nato tanks are better in holding or going on offensive. Me when i can reverse faster and a guy who knows how to shoot weakspots will eventually suffer harder shooting a tank that can reverse out of a bad position better and play angles better than a tank going -4kmh. Or sittinn there with a funny lower plate or a driver’s port which is universal on every tank in terms of weakspots that any guy can hit.
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It does, CAS? Hello?
SPICE 250 + brimstones (which are the best anti-ldircm weapon)
Even for anti-CAS it’s good thanks to amazing FM + one of the best radars in the game
Tanks are better, SPAA is worse, CAS is on par and CAP is better.
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