Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

Imo the F-16AJ and KH38MT are already questionable and should be removed, so I’m also against an even more fake AHS.

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I mostly just look here in between matches, work breaks or simply when I’m bored.

Telling some of the true low skill players (not the person I quoted in the message you replied to, they are quite decent) is funny, especially when they pull all kind of mental gymnastics to deny that they are simply just mediocre at the game.

Yeah I know, was just pointing out on technicality.

Besides the point I mentioned is far more real than those vehicles/armament.

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DM53 and the US top tier shell are the 2 best rounds in the game. (I’m not counting the 292’s apfsds because it’s an event glass cannon tank)

This is because apfsds spall is calculated based on residual penetration, DM53 and M829A2 have the most penetration out of all top tier shells. This gives them more residual penetration when shooting targets, meaning more spall.
The abrams pretty much objectively has the best firepower out of all top tier MBTs due to having the 2nd best top tier round in the game, 5s reload and great gun handling.

Ok so ?

I’m saying they should have even more penetration meaning they should have their current very modern shell. I don’t care about your explainations

Not being able to shoot russian MBTs UFPs while Russia can is crazy

LFP doesn’t exist ig, as well as every other weakspot

They don’t need it though, that’s the thing.
I believe this is a case of “my steak too juicy, lobster too buttery”

So then why do they perform so badly in the hands of the median player?

Imagine if A7’s , or 122 UFP would be made of paper also…

because the median player is terrible, objectively.

And they can’t receive beneficial changes because others would be able to leverage it?

They already have the best out of all nations in that category
We shouldn’t be getting buffs or improvements because the average player refuses to learn where weakspots are and prefers to whine on the forums

And its still less than is needed to actually compete with threat armor systems.

Do I need to once again point out that “Driver, Engine” shouldn’t be a thing. You can practically hit the LFP’s centroid slightly low and have the T-series able to return fire, because the penetrator skips below the autoloader module even though there are critical elements attached to the hull floor IRL that directly interface with the autoloader’s Cassese to permit it to rotate independently of the Hull.

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Also you can get things like;
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happen on occasion, it’s great.

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It does not really matter what br the new russian tanks are they will still dominate since in ukraine most russian tanks dont have proper era and use bricks and that because of budget but because war thunder does not do that they get the real armor that they should have

Yeah, that’s a bad idea

That’s what you like to believe.
This is off-topic anyways

There’s a simpler solution, they’re all bad on average
Especially premium players, regardless of level.

So back to the topic, limiting premium vehicles for players of certain levels won’t change anything besides cut profits

So back to the topic, limiting premium vehicles for players of certain levels won’t change anything besides cut profits

It’s not the same thread, it was the other one.

For the record, I spent 20-30mins trying to reply to every post against my long list, but ended up not being able to post it anyway, because of moderator intervention. But I OFC had very good, and OBJECTIVE, arguments to oppose at all these.

There’s a simpler solution, they’re all bad on average

Ok so we’re currently assuming they all have the same lvl, more or less ?

So why does Russia win large majority of the games at top tier ? Why NATO loose too much often ?

It’s of course and logically because NATO stuff is bad

No, level is irrelevant.

Because CAS is too strong.
Russia has the easiest CAS to use at top tier.
This is a CAS issue.

Gaijin is trying to compensate for Russian MBTs being worse and failing

No, level is irrelevant.

Not talking about level by that, talking about general skill

Because CAS is too strong.
Russia has the easiest CAS to use at top tier.
This is a CAS issue.

Ok so Russia has the bias in the CAS department. We also assumed they had the bias in the tank destroyer/IFVs department

It’s a lot of bias for a game without any bias

But there is an improvement, weeks/months ago some people here were saying Russia wasn’t even winning majority of the times at top tier.

Russia is just stronger at 12.3 upwards.
This isn’t specific to every br