The real problem with the spices is the release limit, having to slow down to mach 1 is borderline a death sentence in the current meta. Also saturation is nice but conveniently one tech tree got an SPAA perfectly suited to deal with saturation attacks
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The “old” typhon was untouchable by SPAA and the new one has a lot of different weapons to deal with everything plus has an amazing flight model, it’s a very good aircraft.
It’s just not as braindead to use as the SU30’s.
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It’s also a bloody nightmare in the typhoon because if you have the throttle anywhere above 50% it’s going supersonic in a climb.
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I don’t disagree that it’s strong on account of the flight model and sensors (particularly the radar MAW!), but until MMW brimstones get added it’s going to be mediocre offensively against ground targets.
This is often the case at toptier.
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Best ? Idk about that, good ones for sure, so do others.
No again for the 134th time, russian IFVs have : 1 autocannon + 1 main cannon to launch HE + ATGM shells, much higher fire rate than bushmaster, much higher accuracy than bushmaster, and sometimes much higher mobility than some NATO IFVs.
Again, russian IFVs are BETTER than NATO IFVs (plus NATO spikes/MMPs are broken, so it’s another minus for NATO)
They have the best tank destroyer in the BMPT because nobody else has a tank destroyer.
So they have, in fact, a bias once again, because nobody else has a tank destroyer. So it’s a plus for Russia
At top tier it’s still usable, but far from OP.
Ok now you’re trolling
It’s the easiest to use for sure, other nations have very strong CAS as well, but it’s harder to use. Typhoons and Gripen for example.
No it’s not only the easiest to use because they have LMURs. Either way, another bias for Russia
This was discussed enough by now, you are simply wrong.
Russian ERAs/side armor in general/autoloaders eat DARTs/ATGMs. When russian autoloaders get hit, they can still shoot. NATO cannot. Only this can make anybody say there is a russian bias ALSO in MBT department.
But there is even more to say about that.
Even more wrong
Again, in comparaison, they are objectively crap because russain MBTs have everything that NATO has, but with more armor.
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What a lot of people miss is, that paveway IV’s can be dropped super sonic, very good to kill SPAA.
And yes, the speed limitation for the spices sucks big time.
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Also also, this assumes that there are no other factors at play, for example: the ability to hit the other tank (guess which tanks suck at that)
Yes… I dread the day gaijin realises they forgot to give them a mach limit.
You are absolutely right, as much as I hate it being the case (nothing is more frustrating for me than having idiots on my team).
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First, flag for insult, you’re not home here, there are rules.
Second, 1 NATO skilled player VS 1 Russia skilled player = Russia wins, because he has armor compared to NATO
PLUS conveniently you aren’t talking about russian IFVs + BMPT + CAS + SPAAs, because I’m guessing even the pro-Russia cannot deny the fact they have the best vehicles in those departments.
SO, there is, indeed, a bias.
I must have missed that nato is exclusively using the Bushmaster.
You as French main should now how amazing the Jaguar is for example.
Not having a tank destroyer is Bias now ? You should be glad about it, since it doesn’t get the scouting ability this way.
And (almost) every one else get’s their f&f missile carrier with even more missiles, so what.
The rest im not even going to read.
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yes. stop lying about how russ suffers because it is not true.
In fairness, LMUR is more lethal due to its higher loft and use of a HE warhead (which consequently has reliable overpressure, unlike HEAT). The numbers definitely make a difference in effectiveness against AA though.
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You can look at their individual performance. Those tanks excel over bvm.
Winrates are affected by other factors such as amount of respawns, cas, spaa etc. Ofc ussr winrate will be better due to mi28nm wiping out 8 players with instagib missiles and sm sv being iron dome mobile. Also bmpts which are obv broken rn. You can look at how winrate changes since jan26. 49 → 50 → 54. Thats period when sm sv and bmpts were added. Bvm contributed nothing to those changes.
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I agree, but its’ not like it’s a safe kill everytime. I had countless of LMURS hitting and doing almost nothing.
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You mean hit the other tank’s weakspots ?
Which, in NATO MBTs, are everywhere ??
They shoot both at the same time, the russian MBT has objectively more chance to damage the NATO MBT than the opposit (for Russia it’s simple : it’s point and click → NATO MBT is dead)
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Again, there are other factors at play. Armor is the least important of them. Hitting the enemy is the most important one. the BVM (and 90M especially) aren’t very good at that
Sorry that the truth hurts.
False, armor is one of the first advantages to disappear in a fight between 2 skilled players, since skilled players should have weakness knowledge and crosshair placement. So that leaves the Abrams with all the advantages.
If you would have done the same comparison with 2 unskilled players you would hsve a point.
Yeah of course I’m not talking about those, because we were talking about a direct comparison between Russian and NATO MBTs.
Moving the goalpost seems to be a clear indicator that you are losing no?
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The issue is that tanks basically never shoot at the same time. They shoot at different times due to the time it takes them to get into a position, their maneuverability, their gun handling, their reload, their sights…
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