Better mobility… than an 80bvm? Reverse speed sure, but I rarely realistically need more than what the 80BVM has when playing it. Forward mobility and steering counts for more in my view. This is getting subjective though.
Also you heavily overestimate the utility of APS. It’s nice but it doesn’t account for the challenger 2 base in reality.
yeah, you can’t shoot UFP therefore good armor
You do realize that BVM acceleration is not better?
There was a table with these but I don’t have it on hand so I won’t comment. 80BVM was on the higher end but not the best.
Yes
Best ? Idk about that, good ones for sure, so do others.
They have the best tank destroyer in the BMPT because nobody else has a tank destroyer.
At top tier it’s still usable, but far from OP.
It’s the easiest to use for sure, other nations have very strong CAS as well, but it’s harder to use. Typhoons and Gripen for example.
This was discussed enough by now, you are simply wrong.
Even more wrong
Yes, it’s comparable to M1A2 acceleration…
I wouldn’t go calling the typhoon strong cas tbh. Not in comparison to kh38 carriers. Gripen is better because 16 spice 250s but it’s a matter of whether you value saturation vs mach jesus instant death stick.
First, NATO MBTs should have armor, which they do not have ingame, so first bias by lack of realism.
Second :
Eventually, one of them will get hit, and in that mater the MBT with better armor (in that case, the russian MBT) will have better chance to survive.
It’s just pure logic.
Thus → NATO MBTs are, in comparaison, crap compared to russain MBTs.
Stop the cope
The real problem with the spices is the release limit, having to slow down to mach 1 is borderline a death sentence in the current meta. Also saturation is nice but conveniently one tech tree got an SPAA perfectly suited to deal with saturation attacks
The “old” typhon was untouchable by SPAA and the new one has a lot of different weapons to deal with everything plus has an amazing flight model, it’s a very good aircraft.
It’s just not as braindead to use as the SU30’s.
It’s also a bloody nightmare in the typhoon because if you have the throttle anywhere above 50% it’s going supersonic in a climb.
I don’t disagree that it’s strong on account of the flight model and sensors (particularly the radar MAW!), but until MMW brimstones get added it’s going to be mediocre offensively against ground targets.
This is often the case at toptier.
Best ? Idk about that, good ones for sure, so do others.
No again for the 134th time, russian IFVs have : 1 autocannon + 1 main cannon to launch HE + ATGM shells, much higher fire rate than bushmaster, much higher accuracy than bushmaster, and sometimes much higher mobility than some NATO IFVs.
Again, russian IFVs are BETTER than NATO IFVs (plus NATO spikes/MMPs are broken, so it’s another minus for NATO)
They have the best tank destroyer in the BMPT because nobody else has a tank destroyer.
So they have, in fact, a bias once again, because nobody else has a tank destroyer. So it’s a plus for Russia
At top tier it’s still usable, but far from OP.
Ok now you’re trolling
It’s the easiest to use for sure, other nations have very strong CAS as well, but it’s harder to use. Typhoons and Gripen for example.
No it’s not only the easiest to use because they have LMURs. Either way, another bias for Russia
This was discussed enough by now, you are simply wrong.
Russian ERAs/side armor in general/autoloaders eat DARTs/ATGMs. When russian autoloaders get hit, they can still shoot. NATO cannot. Only this can make anybody say there is a russian bias ALSO in MBT department.
But there is even more to say about that.
Even more wrong
Again, in comparaison, they are objectively crap because russain MBTs have everything that NATO has, but with more armor.
What a lot of people miss is, that paveway IV’s can be dropped super sonic, very good to kill SPAA.
And yes, the speed limitation for the spices sucks big time.
Also also, this assumes that there are no other factors at play, for example: the ability to hit the other tank (guess which tanks suck at that)
Yes… I dread the day gaijin realises they forgot to give them a mach limit.
You are absolutely right, as much as I hate it being the case (nothing is more frustrating for me than having idiots on my team).
First, flag for insult, you’re not home here, there are rules.
Second, 1 NATO skilled player VS 1 Russia skilled player = Russia wins, because he has armor compared to NATO
PLUS conveniently you aren’t talking about russian IFVs + BMPT + CAS + SPAAs, because I’m guessing even the pro-Russia cannot deny the fact they have the best vehicles in those departments.
SO, there is, indeed, a bias.
I must have missed that nato is exclusively using the Bushmaster.
You as French main should now how amazing the Jaguar is for example.
Not having a tank destroyer is Bias now ? You should be glad about it, since it doesn’t get the scouting ability this way.
And (almost) every one else get’s their f&f missile carrier with even more missiles, so what.
The rest im not even going to read.