Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

That is wromg due to t series being limited to their counterpart from nato. Good player on tank with better armament + better armor layout + actual reverse speed will be much more effective than good player or bvm. That is the reason pro players mainly pick leopards, abrams, leclercs, type10s.

Bvm has weak roof so sitting in hulldown will lead you to hangar. And its not hard to hit. Thats issue of many t series including this one.

By this logic t72a, t80ud and other stuff can be defined as best on their respective tiers. “I drive, I shoot, I shrug off some shot, I best” while losing to analogs in terms of mobility, gun handling, reload speed and other factors.

But it doesnt become more efficient than 2a7, 122b+. Because vehicle itself is limited compared to analogs. This is proven by both stats and tournaments. By average players and by experienced ones.

Oh look it’s all the tanks with <5 sec reload, good gun depression and good/decent mobility.

They tryna make us believe t-series are weak.

They forget about the comparative aspect of things.

Every NATO MBTs are weak. Even weaker.

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Bar 2A7/122B

Except the 2A7/122B. I’ll give them that. Those lag behind in the soft factors like not having pantsir-sm.

No, thats just you refusing to listen after months of crying in here.
Nobody is saying they are weak, they are just decent, nothing more nothing less.

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so let me get this right, you get:
smaller roof weakspot
smaller roof weakspot
comparable-ish roof weakspot
ariete
smaller roof weakspot

also, where’s the M1?

Average players perform better on leclercs, type10s, m1. Not just 2a7/122b+

Whatever you want to believe dude. If that’s what you concluded from those images I have nothing further to say to you.

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Also while at the same time not talking about better reload, depression and mobility, APS.
But that all doesn’t matter cause PrOtEcTiOn.

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Do they now? Here’s the averages.

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Who cares ?

Does Russia has the best SACLOS SPAAs + best IFVs + best tank destroyer + best CAS at top tier yes or no ?

Of course yes, thus of course they dominate top tier thus of course there is a bias in this game. It’s that simple

Plus, t-series are the best MBTs along with Leos, every other MBTs are crap because lack of armor. So again, Russia has a semi bias in that category as well.

So unfair to other nations. What are we, a joke ? Food for Russia at best ?

Better mobility… than an 80bvm? Reverse speed sure, but I rarely realistically need more than what the 80BVM has when playing it. Forward mobility and steering counts for more in my view. This is getting subjective though.

Also you heavily overestimate the utility of APS. It’s nice but it doesn’t account for the challenger 2 base in reality.

yeah, you can’t shoot UFP therefore good armor

You do realize that BVM acceleration is not better?

There was a table with these but I don’t have it on hand so I won’t comment. 80BVM was on the higher end but not the best.

Yes

Best ? Idk about that, good ones for sure, so do others.

They have the best tank destroyer in the BMPT because nobody else has a tank destroyer.
At top tier it’s still usable, but far from OP.

It’s the easiest to use for sure, other nations have very strong CAS as well, but it’s harder to use. Typhoons and Gripen for example.

This was discussed enough by now, you are simply wrong.

Even more wrong

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Yes, it’s comparable to M1A2 acceleration…

I wouldn’t go calling the typhoon strong cas tbh. Not in comparison to kh38 carriers. Gripen is better because 16 spice 250s but it’s a matter of whether you value saturation vs mach jesus instant death stick.

First, NATO MBTs should have armor, which they do not have ingame, so first bias by lack of realism.

Second :

  • 1 NATO player is trying to play well so he doesn’t get hit
  • 1 Russia players is trying to play well so he doesn’t get hit

Eventually, one of them will get hit, and in that mater the MBT with better armor (in that case, the russian MBT) will have better chance to survive.

It’s just pure logic.

Thus → NATO MBTs are, in comparaison, crap compared to russain MBTs.

Stop the cope

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