The downsides of attrotious reload and mobility is not worth the “protection”.
Have you ever looked at the BVM turret?
glorious toptier mbt lolpenned everywhere by dm53
Not my intention, I just intend to point out that they’re not nearly as bad as people like to claim. Their main advantage is that they can be played completely mindlessly which means on an objective scale they perform better (lets face it, the average player is terrible at the game), plus soft factors like better SPAA and whatever the su30 is meaning that movement is much less restricted as you don’t have to worry about certain threats nearly as much.
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They have the exact same reload.
I know, but one of them has good mobility plus a scouting ability.
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Oh no. You sure are suffering…
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That is wromg due to t series being limited to their counterpart from nato. Good player on tank with better armament + better armor layout + actual reverse speed will be much more effective than good player or bvm. That is the reason pro players mainly pick leopards, abrams, leclercs, type10s.
Bvm has weak roof so sitting in hulldown will lead you to hangar. And its not hard to hit. Thats issue of many t series including this one.
By this logic t72a, t80ud and other stuff can be defined as best on their respective tiers. “I drive, I shoot, I shrug off some shot, I best” while losing to analogs in terms of mobility, gun handling, reload speed and other factors.
But it doesnt become more efficient than 2a7, 122b+. Because vehicle itself is limited compared to analogs. This is proven by both stats and tournaments. By average players and by experienced ones.
Oh look it’s all the tanks with <5 sec reload, good gun depression and good/decent mobility.
They tryna make us believe t-series are weak.
They forget about the comparative aspect of things.
Every NATO MBTs are weak. Even weaker.
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Bar 2A7/122B
Except the 2A7/122B. I’ll give them that. Those lag behind in the soft factors like not having pantsir-sm.
No, thats just you refusing to listen after months of crying in here.
Nobody is saying they are weak, they are just decent, nothing more nothing less.
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so let me get this right, you get:
smaller roof weakspot
smaller roof weakspot
comparable-ish roof weakspot
ariete
smaller roof weakspot
also, where’s the M1?
Average players perform better on leclercs, type10s, m1. Not just 2a7/122b+
Whatever you want to believe dude. If that’s what you concluded from those images I have nothing further to say to you.
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Also while at the same time not talking about better reload, depression and mobility, APS.
But that all doesn’t matter cause PrOtEcTiOn.
Do they now? Here’s the averages.
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Who cares ?
Does Russia has the best SACLOS SPAAs + best IFVs + best tank destroyer + best CAS at top tier yes or no ?
Of course yes, thus of course they dominate top tier thus of course there is a bias in this game. It’s that simple
Plus, t-series are the best MBTs along with Leos, every other MBTs are crap because lack of armor. So again, Russia has a semi bias in that category as well.
So unfair to other nations. What are we, a joke ? Food for Russia at best ?
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Better mobility… than an 80bvm? Reverse speed sure, but I rarely realistically need more than what the 80BVM has when playing it. Forward mobility and steering counts for more in my view. This is getting subjective though.
Also you heavily overestimate the utility of APS. It’s nice but it doesn’t account for the challenger 2 base in reality.