This is nothing new in war thunder as we have multiple other system with chainguns that use a belt to guide ammunition from the storage into the gun (Marder, any bushmaster, etc., hell even wiesel 1A4 has full on external belts that insta kill the vehicle on hit)
Modern kinetic penetrators that are meant to combat enemy ERA feature a much weaker extended tip that acts as an activator for the ERA protecting the main body.
In case of USA the M829A3 features a small ~10cm ish steel tip before the main DU body.
By activating the ERA earlier with the steel tip before the main DU body slams into it the reduction to penetration is just partial compared to if you hit it normally without it.
the base modular missile exists. We saw it in the war in the ML variation. However what is dubious that the seeker itself for the IR version exists and/or in the case that it does exists its able to hit not only a small enough target like tank but also a tank that is on the move.
Similar missiles like the french Hammer use IR mainly against targets that are stationary and strategic, using the laser guided versions against moving targets like cars/trucks.
The ingame dispersion is however still way too low compared to even an unrealistically optimistic value (i.e. acting as if the dispersion of 68.27% of shells is the same as that listed for just 50% of shells).
Also dispersion of weapons is changed sometimes, such as recently (albeit quite the bs change because figures for an entirely unrelated weapon were used as source) the changes to KDA and KDE - aswell as GA35 (which the source was for) which now feature maximum dispersions of 1.68mrad.
This topic is specifically about NATO fanboys whining, crying because they’re bad, lol. I’ve read almost this entire thread—I’ve been here since the beginning—and I simply won’t waste my time on such nonsense anymore. My username? My last username was Tommy Shelby, my young friend
In case of USA the M829A3 features a small ~10cm ish steel tip before the main DU body.
Oh wow, thanks for explaining it. Early soviet APFSDS rounds actually featured similar construction, but for different purposes. I believe in game though, rounds characteristics are balance values, so that’s why it won’t be added.
the base modular missile exists. We saw it in the war in the ML variation. However what is dubious that the seeker itself for the IR version exists and/or in the case that it does exists its able to hit not only a small enough target like tank but also a tank that is on the move.
Similar missiles like the french Hammer use IR mainly against targets that are stationary and strategic, using the laser guided versions against moving targets like cars/trucks.
Well, in the advertisement booklet it says it has “inertial + satellite + thermal imager guiding systems”. Yea, when you put it that way i can kind of see the problem. Tank is not really a small target, it’s not impossible for hardware locate it in the IR channel, but not at that range probably, so it uses the combination of said navigation systems to accomplish this.
Everything on the inner pylons SHOULD be rocket pods or iron bombs of varying models.
Hello there, well loadout in not really a state secret. When i was searching i got confused by this photo, i didn’t notice it was Ka-52, not Mi-28. So you’re probably right.
no round characteristics are not a balance value, they require actual real world performance information. You cant just go to DM53 and be like “hmmmm i dont like it, -100mm flat pen at point blank” and vice versa.
in comparison to a strategic target like a factory/warehouse/bridge they are very much small. These types of missiles tend to be generally used against strategic targets rather than specifically being used in anti tank role. Both from the financial and also from the logistics side.
again, most of those systems are worthless against any mobile target. INS is for long range stabilization and GPS guidanceis for course correction and isnt useful against targets that can be or are on the move.
SLAM-ER for example uses GPS coordinates with terminal IIR guidance to hit strategic objects but specifically has the ability to strike targets of opportunity i.e. tanks and similar objects.
Why is torn inside-out, almost like it it was hit from the front.
They fire more than 2-5 rounds in a row, the same can’t be said for 2A42.
Of course, because you said so) 2-5 shots on high setting is 0,2 to 0,5 seconds, i think you meant 2-5 seconds, “expert”.
Where?
Too see something it is generally adviced to open your eyes first.
I do because half of this sentence is false.
I do because i want to pretend to
Oh sorry, same sentences
For single shots.
Keep telling yourself that, for whatever reason. Even a dude that wanted to disprove it confirmed it accidentially. I suggest you read the entire thread. I’m waiting(not really) for another “nuh uh” response from your echochamber.
distance is not the main factor in defeating shaped charges, cooooope cageeees
I’m not against one off or prototypes (I don’t take much issue on Yak 141’s existence with its radar for example)
But when a prototype introduces a clear balancing issue, then i’m all for it to be removed.
At some point the upper belt needs to be fed from the main ammo rack.
So either it’s disconnected and someone has to make the transfer manually, or it is directly connected.
I did not read the entire convo truth be told, but if i recall right, he was refering to the impact of air on a Heat Jet (or its lack of impact in this case)
Western ERA/NERA is both thick and heavy, so i doubt it’s made up of air inside
Western NERA/NxRA is exactly that, Non-Explosive Reactive Armour.
It is not just panels with air, nor is the air the measure to protect from HEAT jets. It functions by having composite panels within the array which rapidly expand upon being hit by a high-energy jet, thereby disrupting it.
Like ERA, except less potent and also not explosive.
I should add on the contrary, the air is actually a critical measure in disrupting Kinetic projectiles - the high hardness (often ceramic) casings around the reactive composites disrupt the structure of the projectile and impart moments on it, which means that when it enters the air and is no longer supported it will begin to rotate. If that happens even a fraction of a degree it will lose structural integrity upon hitting the thicker backing plate of the array.
