Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

What I have drawn from this is that you have not a damn clue what you’re talking about.

overly survivable, it should be able to be ammoracked since its ammo rack its connected to the hull yet it dosent blow due to that cuz gaijin claims its not connected even tho it obviously is,

is exactly the same thing with slightly different armor layouts and slightly less crew

its a T72 with better breach and overall armor, its really good if you know how to push correctly, and its pretty survivable for being a russian tank

its basically a slighlty less survivable T90M but much faster wich allows aggresive playstyles and better handling of numerous enemies due to faster reloads

its literally a better T80U at just a bit more br, nothing crazy but i feel the ERA does stop more than it should

agree but i do feel it manouvers too much specially considering how big is it, but the missile’s onboard radar its trash compared to other’s

oh no it is pretty darn op, being able to carry that much fire and forget weaponry without much issues, being extremely manouverable and having really good thrust to weight ratio, with insanely AA weaponry too

its still REALLY good specially at its ground RB battle rating

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Seems like British mains and US mains are fighting for the first place for who is the biggest clowns at the forum lol like the person only been drinking tea their entire life but trying to tell us how much better vodka tastes

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Aha care to offer a rebuttal?

We have only spoken about tanks, we haven’t touched aircraft, or helicopters or SAMS?
Only nation to have an FnF missile that still isn’t proven to actually function the way it does IRL — Russia
Only nation to have a top attack ATGM in the form of LMUR — PARS, JAGM, Brimstone, SPIKE, AKERON all do not have a top attack profile.
LMUR — Is it actually FnF for moving targets?
No proof Mi-28 can carry 8 LMURS all documents suggest 4 — Gaijin ignores it for “Balance”
BUK the only system that has 3 lives — Despite other systems having that capability (Sky Sabre for one)
Gaijin have ignored the reports.
Giving Russia a free Pantsir as a free spawn…Everyone else gets average SAMS Gaijin gives Russian mains the best single vehicle SAM.

Just some of the most egregious.
These are some of the more egregious ones.

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BUK is not the only system with 3 lives but is the first actual top tier one, type 81 TAN SAM KAI

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Well we are discussing more top tier, every other nation loses the Radar control vehicle and it becomes a kill.

The BUK’s radar and missiles are incredibly schizo, making the entire thing incredibly awful to play and definitely the worst of the 12.7 ARH SPAA. But of course, you would not know this, as you see things from a biased lense, maybe grind something other than Britain?

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BUK kills plenty, yes all SAMs are not 100% even the IRIS-T.

Maybe just accept that Gaijin holds your hand and gives you systems that outperform the NATO equivalents. Like how the R-77-1 is superior to the R-77 but the Aim120C is weaker than the 120A and B at close range. Source for that? Gaijin devs think smol fins make missile turn bad.

Source for Kh-38MT some brochure found in China.

Consistent imbalanced treatment to keep Russia in the conversation when in reality they are falling behind.

Doesn’t change the fact that it is among the worst of 12.7 SPAA.

Alright. We’re not going to discuss the hot dumpster fire that are most RU tanks.

Gunjob proved its existance. I guess he’s wrong.

Its a video game. Certain things are withheld to make the game playable. And trust me, you don’t want to dig into the rabbit hole that is historical balancing. You don’t know what this entails for the game.

Lmao buk is only good on open field 0 cover maps where planes cant hide from it and otherwise its total garbage because you just fly up to it over cover and kill it while it is unable to engage you due to massive minimum engagement range

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It’s the 3rd best system behind the IRIS-T SLM and the SAMP-T I would say it edges Skysabre by the fact the missiles are superior and it is more survivable.

In the real world yeah Russian tanks are bad, that’s why the T-14 is a complete redesign to bring Russian tanks up to the level of what NATO currently operate. Look at how they are and have performed T- series tanks perform poorly.

Kh-38MT exists it just doesn’t and cannot function like it does in game.

It’s a game yes things are held back but never Russian things? Brimstone denied all kinds of fire modes would not be “fair” for balance. Gaijin give more jets Kh-38 and they wipe out lobbies. Russians it’s fair and balanced. Historical balancing might be fun excluding some outliers like Centurion vs IS-3 would be fun.

Providing you have good FnF weapons and the BUK player does not intercept all of your bombs and missiles.

Lmfao. No.

And it reflects in game. BVM is the only semi-decent top tier RU tank. Rest are trash.

Sure. But the HAMMER having a 1.5km IR lock in real life is disregarded.

18 FnF Brimstones would not be balanced. EFTs also got Spice so the FnF problem is largely sloved.

Won’t happen.

1.7 KV-1, 8.0 279, 8.0 T-64A, 6.7 IS-7, just to name a few. Have fun.

the advantage only exists on paper, u need to be blind or be disable to hit the ERA.

so not modelling a real thing is an advantage even when the fastest reload in a toptier russian tank is 6.4secs which is obviously not the best reload at all? are u drinking something or wtf?

good news for ur beloved NATO tanks: russian tanks trade turret basket for one-shot disadvantage.
so in resume, they’re basically the same thing: NATO tanks can’t aim and russian tanks die instantly.

removed hills? lmao i still see plenty of them, and even a small hill already eclipses the poor russian depression of 5/6 degrees, and it’s still possible for NATO tanks to use hull down positions.
for real, what are u talking about? and wtf did u drink this morning?

both T-90M and T-80BVM have the same gun handling as a Leopard 2A7V, and im not seeing u complain about Leopard 2A7V having good gun handling, stop crying like a kid.

learn a bit, mate, T-90M is from 2017 and M1A2 SEP V2 is from 2012, Proryv has 3rd Gen thermals and Abrams has 2nd Gen thermals. if u like to complain about balancing, then make a suggestion about historical BRs. i would love to face M22s in my Tiger II or use the Maus against poor Shermans.

lmao u have to be f*cking kidding.

lmao u have to be f*cking kidding again.
they literally don’t have neutral steering, most of them have bad acceleration except some specific models of the T-80, and lose a lost a lot of speed when turning like any other tank.

if ur excuses are just complainings about russian tanks being better than NATO tanks, then i recommend u to play with them and check out if they’re as u say, cuz rn u have literally no opinion about them and u just have proven that u know nothing about russian technology, history and stats.

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dawg no.

maybe cuz R-77-1 is a modernization of the R-77 with improved seeker and thrust for close-range engagements while AIM-120C is a modified AIM-120B for long-range engagements? u just have proven u literally know NOTHING and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about missiles, not even AMRAAMs which are the missiles u use since u’re a NATO main.

maybe cuz it does? small fins means less maneuverability cuz u have less surfaces that impact the air which is what makes the missile turn. u don’t know how AIR works? go back to school then.

Kh-38MT doesn’t exist and Kh-38ML already performs extremely well so imo it could maybe be removed from the game.

so u’re admitting Russia is a bad nation? thx God i thought u didn’t notice.

Sky sabre and sampt are miles better not even close

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that is true

russian tanks perform bad irl cuz they use primitive technology compared to what they face (Leopard 2A7V/2A8 (idk if DK is also german), M1A2 SEP V3/4, Trophy APS to counterrest their Shaheds, etc).
they also have poor survivability, as i said, since actual irl soldiers know (better than YOU know) where to shoot at a russian tank, while russian tanks have to find their weakspots most of the time. i’m not even surprised Russia has invented their own GPS since looks like they don’t have access to american GPS or it can hack their russian systems or wtf happens so they needed to create “GLONASS”.

The real outlier here is pantsir and its totally broken on all levels for mclos spaa

Can deal with fly bys with a gun or annoy tanks/light tanks

Can effortlessly kill both planes and helicopters over massive distances

Unmatched in munition interception reliability

Now with dumbass radar screen it can engage 4 different targets at same time with aimbot perfect accuracy on missiles which means old tricks of dropping bombs to break lock dont even work anymore

No other mclos spaa is even close to how broken and omnipotent pantsir is

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it technically doesn’t exist, i even found a photo where’s the same design as the Kh-38MT but being ML
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this is the webpage i found the image, it says Kh-38MT (and other variants such as MA and MK) aren’t real, but options/ideas for the Kh-38M since it’s an “universal” AGM, which means it can use different seekerheads.