You’re probably talking about the BMPT-72, right? I’ve never really looked into these news because I don’t like Russian tanks, but I guess the BMPT is like China’s QN506, where the turret can be mounted on other chassis. That’s not important, what matters is the “Fossil” explosive reactive armor is too magical, while the M1A2 SEP v2’s explosive reactive armor doesn’t seem to do much. The M829A3 produced by the Americans to counter explosive reactive armor hasn’t made it into the game yet. The M829A4 will be used with the M1A2 SEP v3, and the M829A3 seems to have been swallowed up by Gajin… I hate Gajin for not adding in-game elements based on real-world data.
ARAT is much lighter and meant to defeat chemical energy threats.
Kontakt-5 and Relikt utilize much heavier flyer plates and are meant to defeat both kinetic and chemical energy threats.
Because it wouldn’t be balanced.
1) M829A3 is intended to defeat Kontakt-5, but the tanks equipped with Kontakt-5 in-game (T-72B3A, T-80U, T-80U-E1, etc.) are already sub-par for 12.7 standards. They don’t deserve to get curbstomped by an M1 (that’s already superior to those tanks) now lolpenning their UFP.
2) If the US gets M829A3, then every other nation should also get an equivalent ammunition upgrade, but then the US mains will complain that the M1’s armour isn’t good enough anymore, the complaint cycle will be endless.
3) Ammunition wise, top-tier is in a pretty balanced and good spot (which is rare as top-tier goes), it doesn’t need meddling with.
Now what happened? You know your russian tank will be pen like nothing if they add latest rounds and you say Armor is not important lol , there is reason why everyone is spamming bmpts and russia has most players at top tier , give me latest round and i wont be crying about abrams armor lol
Other countries can certainly obtain better ammunition, but I guess M1 players won’t complain about the armor due to this update, because Gaijin has intentionally nerfed the M1 armor for a long time now. Now the M1’s front can be penetrated by the BMPT’s 30mm cannon, is that reasonable? After being hit, the M1 has a 90% chance of having its directional gear damaged. If it takes a hit, no one will consider the enemy’s ammunition penetration. Chinese people like to say “penetrate and defend,” but when the M1 faces Russian tanks, there’s a chance it can’t penetrate and it definitely can’t defend.
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I’ve explained this countless times.
On average, Russian tanks have:
Worse acceleration.
Lower top speed.
Significantly worse vertical gun traverse.
Slower turret traverse.
Abysmal reverse.
Terrible reverse steering.
Slower reload.
Fewer crew.
Worse ammunition stowage.
Massively worse gun depression.
Their frontal armour is one of the very few advantages they have over NATO equivalents, but apparently to US mains that’s still not good enough, they also need to be able to lolpen the UFP at all times.
They’re not looking for balance, they’re looking for US/NATO dominance.
They are already complaining, let alone if Russia got a shell that could penetrate the turret cheeks of DU-equipped M1’s easier.
Skill/Aim Issue.
Poor positioning issue.
The M1A2’s also got above average armour as far as 12.0+ tanks go.
The M1A1 at 11.7 is already superior to any MBT in the entire Russian tech tree, stop relying on armour and start utilizing the countless massive advantages these M1’s have that’ll easily allow you to out-play their Russian counterparts.
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You didn’t answered this part
This is unlikely to be a technical issue. The M1 only has useful armor on the sides of its turret front. The M1’s gun shield can be penetrated and is quite large, and the Russian tank’s gun shield position can also be penetrated, but the Russian tank has longer trunnion , making it less vulnerable. In reality, the M1’s front hull has depleted uranium armor, but Gajin hasn’t added it into the game (Gaijin hasn’t added most of the depleted uranium armor). The weak points of the Russian tank are the “head,” the driver’s observation window, and the “groin,” but the M1 is vulnerable everywhere except the face (entry from any direction).
The shortcomings of these Russian tanks that you pointed out are exactly how they are in reality… This is a difference in mindset regarding whether to view WT as a simulator or a game. You are asking for balance, but what I need is to incorporate the real weapon data into the game.
so in your theory every RU tank is almost impossible to be oneshot?
Because I’ve answered it about 1000 times already.
1) I’ve stated countless times that the turret ring should be fixed.
2) The M1 is far from the only tank that’s vulnerable to 30mm from the front, in fact, it’s nowhere near as vulnerable as quite a few others:
Yet you don’t hear Italian mains, French mains, Japanese mains or Brits complaining about vulnerability to 30mm all day, in fact, all of them manage to do more than fine despite this vulnerability.
Fine, let’s go all the way and give me historical match-ups too then.
I’ll gladly curbstomp M60A1’s, Leopard 1’s, Chieftain Mk3’s and AMX-30’s in my T-64A all day.
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wtf? when did i say that?
did ur brain combined “BMPT hard to kill” = “all russian tanks hard to kill”? and im talking about BMPT only, not the premium BMPT-72 which has 2 crew members less and can be one tapped if u shoot to the turret ring.
so i assume the t72’s and t80’s have a completely different weakspot to the BMPT?
are u dumb? that tanks have less crew members than the BMPT and their crew layout is different, which means u can one shot it if u hit the UFP, that doesn’t happen with both BMPTs.
it’s not “weakspot difference”, but “crew layout”. all russian tanks share the same weakspots, but certain ones have better armor in that same spots or changed/variated something inside the tank (FCS, crew layout and etc etc) that makes it stronger or more tanky than others.
it sure does
sure it does, buddy, sure it does…
as u can see here, both BMPTs survive to the basically easiest weakspot to reach in any russian tank, BMPT kills 2/3 crew members out of 5, and BMPT-72 kills 1 out of 3 (and keep in mind im using DM53 from the Leopard 2A7V, a tank that the BMPT DOESN’T EVEN FACE).
btw don’t questionate anything u see in my browser, most of that things are just old things i have since i use the same account with the same “favourites” and etc etc since i was a child.
excuse me some time to finish with my match and find a replay
sure buddy find an excuse.
the only time i fought a BMPT, it was blind and i was hiding behind a wall, i one tapped his side with the KE-W from the Leopard 2A4M, pretty sure i wouldn’t have been able to one shot it with a frontal shot that weren’t into the driver’s port.
here you go, and your protection analysis shots are from skyscraper height, you can see even if youre elevated it doesnt pose a problem, you just have to get better/learn where to shoot based on your positioning, we wouldnt shoot a BMPT in the LFP instead of the drivers port when we are higher than the BMPT in the y axis would we now?
i actually wish to fight russia while grinding russia right now.
bruh i can’t replay it
did u know driver’s port is the smallest weakspot in any russian tank? or are u just saying that cuz that’s the only excuse u could find?
have u seen to T-90A’s driver’s port (the one the BMPT uses)?