It’s a 125mm…?
The cannon is: 2A82-1M
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There we go, you claim russia’s system is flawless while the tried and true one is obviously decadent capitalist trash, and all testing, irl statistics and examples should be ignored.
Genuinely brainwashed
“ Damaged vs. Destroyed: The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have focused on the number of vehicles damaged and returned to service. A June 2024 report in the Israeli newspaper Maariv indicated that over 500 Israeli armored vehicles (including tanks, APCs, and bulldozers) have incurred damage since October 2023, with dozens completely decommissioned.”
Uh huh. Sure, I DEFINITELY believe you.
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Where tf did I ever claim it was flawless??? You’re putting words in my mouth as per usual.
If anyone is Brainwashed it’s you.
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The ratio of AFVs to tanks is very large
Huh ?
It literally doesnt state how many tanks so why would he be wrong?
You didnt claim it was flawless but why would you give a completely combat untested APS more credibility than a combat tested that has received multiple updates
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“Nearly two dozen” lost: In a December 2023 report, Business Insider , citing open-source information, stated that Israel had lost “nearly two dozen tanks” since October 7
Lost, not damaged. It is estimated in several news sources to be between 300-500 MBTS were knocked out in need of repair. And a couple dozen totally destroyed.
Because from the combat footage I’ve seen, it can’t stop a simple RPG. I’ve seen at least 6-7 instances of that occurring. And that’s only recorded instances.
Please link these sources, because i think the IDF only has around 400 Merkava MK4s in active service.
And youve seen virtually nothing of the T14s APS so why the assumption that it is much better?
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Care to DM me these, I can debunk as needed
Israel hasn’t announced a number of total losses.
They have about 1700-2000 mbts.
Mostly mk.2s but 600 merkavas with trophy
The IDF and their repair core have stated less than 10 MK4s destroyed, and a quick google image search will have you seeing the same 5 tanks being regarded as ‘50 destroyed’, so he likely fell for propaganda
The total AFV will include a LOT of Namers, Pumas and various APCs (including a few m113 and nacherzit), alongside the armoured bulldozers.
Less than 600 were used across the entire Gaza conflict, Israel has other borders to protect
Do you have counter evidence? I’ve provided news outlets. You’ve just provided an opinion, as per usual
Which is probably also why they can barely produce it.
Youve provided one news source that mentions nearly two dozen tanks lost which is kinda far away from 300.
Also you forgot to answer that question buddy
Well of course, they had 40~ before the Ukraine war. I think if I recall correctly they have 68~80 now, somewhere in that ball park.
It is the most expensive Russian tank ever.
I doubt this, because not even all Mk.4s in israeli service currently have trophy.
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I would assume Russian the APS would likely not saying definitely, is better, because they have developed it to help agaisnt APFSDS.
I said I would bet on it, and I even added that it would need upgrades to defeat drones, therefore implying it’s not perfect. But given the price tag it’s likely a good system.
I don’t 100% bet on anything. Nothing is surefire.