The few news sources I looked up in a quick search all have the same info, so either Israel is lying to them, or they all somehow are lying in the same way.
Ok so you believe the claims of a russian manufacturer more than the verifiable performance of a known and exported system. Alright.
I mean looking at your news regarding the DM73 i would maybe overthink the quality of your research
Already in service since last year. DM83 itself is already being field-tested by the Bundeswehr and will enter service next year i.e the “Make Relikt a dead weight” APFSDS round.
Given he used the google AI summary as his main argument, i’d doubt the legitimacy of any claims he makes.
Fact of the matter is that Trophy was extremely effective, more so than drozd or arena ever will be, and we’ll see more of it with the booming export market for APS systems within western armies
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I mean it could also be that the people writing these articles aren’t very clued in on military stuff, it happens with lots of stuff.
Same concept as when news articles talking about a military vehicle and then using a picture of a completely different vehicle.
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Due to expense. It’s being practical.
And the “verifiable” Israel Rafael APS clearly isn’t all that well off if it’s not working against RPGs.
So what’s worse, the one that the is “combat tested” that hasn’t been all that reliable, or the non combat testing one that has a higher expense?
The only solid figures come from military analysts on twitter, and I highly doubt he will accept those so I won’t bother sending them.
If you don’t want to do the research though, simply google ‘destroyed merkava 4’ and you’ll see the same 4-5 tanks from 2023 onwards, and they were all lost to drones & IEDs
The only time where Trophy isn’t defeating RPG is with an enemy saturation attack, expending the APS charges & overwhelming it.
That’s the only weakness of Trophy besides the typical APS drawbacks, and the Merkava’s armour typically mitigates the damage when Trophy fails
That you know of, and regardless, If Dm73 was introduced in 2016, the game isn’t at that “age” yet. As far as I can tell we are at 2015. Meaning you’d have to wait until more modern systems and tanks come in to get dm73, and if you say 2024 which is conflicting with @H_ngma then it would still be post SepV3 and the others.
But it’s weird you two have conflicting sources, and I’m not going after you like I have a vendetta, unlike certain people.
Why would I accept anything from someone who thought a 152mm was a 125mm?
Christ you could’ve probably thought it was an 57mm.
In what sense? We already have a lot of vehicles from way past 2016.
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T-90M is from ~2022
Leo 2A7V is from 2021
Leo 2A7HU is from 2023
VJTF is 2023/4
2S38 isn’t even in service
Ariete AMV is ~2024
IRIS-T SLM is 2024
BUK M3 is like 2020 iirc
LMUR entered service like 2 years ago too
KF41 is 2024/25
VT4A1 is 2023
Lmao.
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Clearly neither has been the case. Hamas wasn’t a well discipline military force with high tech equipment.
It’s not like Hamas has tanks, they were doing Guerrilla warfare, which is what things like TUSK, Kontact-5, Relikt, Arena, Trophy, etc are all meant to help prevent / stop.
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I think all nations except for the US (iirc) now have at least 1 MBT from after 2010+.
EDIT: of course date of introduction doesn’t mean much in game.
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Ha, Sweden still doesn’t :D
If I remember correctly, not 100% sure tho, but I’m guessing they will soon give them a 2A7S when they add the 2A8 to Germany.
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Difficult to know what’s what with these fictional russian weapons
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DM73 is Leopard 2A7Vs primary service KE round for your information…
DM53 hasn’t been in service in its in-game form since about 2006
So some nations actually don’t even have their in-service MBT rounds for their 2020+ tanks, like the US, Germany, and Italy (and yes, M829A3 and A4 are the main rounds for the SEPv2).
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Strv 123 is still in progress, but supposedly it’s 2A7V standard
Now you shift the goalposts to ‘the enemy weren’t strong’ xD
Just admit your fault, and accept that Trophy is an effective system, because Rafaell, western armies and facts agree
Mk4M is like 2008-2010 yeah, I expect to see Mk5 soon since it would be Israel’s 2020+ tank
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