I just want a new batch of top tier MBTs to bring more nations up to or closer to the Leopard 2A7/Strv 122 standard.
Like I would love to see the SEPv3 (no tusk/trophy, M829A2), Challenger 3 proto, T-90M with better reverse, Leclerc XLR (with shard) etc.
And than later we can have a wave of APS equipped MBTs.
There’s hundreds of prototype tanks they could add, among light vehicles they haven’t added. No scout helis etc.
For as many vehicles as they have in game, there is still thousands missing.
I think the newest T-90M has arena APS as apart of its package, just as SepV3 has Trophy (which kinda debatably works… the Israel’s made it and employ it but were losing tanks to simple RPG-7s, aka the thing trophy is meant to stop). So I’m questioning it’s utility… in game it will work fine though.
Qualifikationsmuster neuer Panzermunition für Bundeswehr und British Army | Rheinmetall heres an article by Rheinmetall that mentions “DM73 is currently the most modern iteration, introduced in the Bundeswehr for use with the L55A1 high-pressure gun.” in the context of the qualification for the KE2020
Ordered tank ammunition for the Bundeswehr and the Ukraine Heres an ESUT article from 2023 mentioning orders for DM73
And heres a screenshot from a BAAINBw delivery document
Eh I have faith that they’ll fix whatever is going on with trophy IRL.
I don’t have much more faith in Arena than in trophy, since most of the time corrupt people or people with small egos only show us what they want to see (goes for those people no matter where they are from).
Okay, so 2023, which means in the in game tank “period” we aren’t really there yet kinda. Seems like we are up to 2015ish.
The only APS I truly believe in is the one on the T-14 merely because it’s meant to stop all threats bar drones, as that wasn’t a threat until recently, granted I’m sure it will be adapted in some fashion to deal with that.
But from the clip of the APS firing at 3bm42 / 3bm46 it did actually degrade the APFSDS a decent bit, by… I think it said as much as 31%~?
I really want to see a KV-4 event tank ngl. Pretty much an upscaled KV-220 with the 122 like in WOT. Although I guess I wouldn’t be upset if they went with the 107mm.
But from the blueprint and the mockup, it looks more like the 122mm was going to be the Final Cut.
Actually 2022 according to the document and thats just declassified official delieveries for the Bundeswehr so internal qualification was probably long before that
Trophy is by far the most combat tested and effective APS irl, within the expected threat window, the IDF reports a 80~90 interception rate, that’s set to improve with the new Trophy upgrades (as seen on the MK4M-400) since that adds a 360° IR sensor.
Russian APS seems effective from testing footage but from my knowledge it’s had fairly limited success in conflict
T-90M2 with better reverse and Burlak module is expected as most probable next thing in Soviet tech tree
Russian APSs have just been deployed with the newest T-90ms.
The T72B3 is a tad bit older.
And arena M not arena is on the T90s. I couldn’t tell you the difference between Arena and Arena M though.
They had 500 get damaged, with a bunch beyond repair.
500 out of 2000, not saying all were APS threats, but many had to have been.
(To the mod who is likely to look at this, the crew abandoned the tank after it was struck btw)
This isn’t the image I was lookin for, but may have been knocked out with RPG-7s alone
Thing with the T-14 APS is that I’ll believe it when I see it.
I take military talking about their equipment with a grain of salt, but Russian talk with an exceptionally large amount of salt.
90% of that number would have been to mines, IEDs or drones.
As stated ‘within the expected threat window’ being rocket/RPG launched within the APS’ interception area, it has intercepted ~85-90 percent of stated threats.
If you’re going to dredge up images of a Merkava that was destroyed while stationary and abandoned to support misinformation then that’s laughable
Of the random crap they do come up with, from what I saw with the videos and what not, they put ALOT of effort into getting the T-14 to be the “next gen” tank.
I’d bet on it, especially watching videos about it, worst case scenario I’m wrong.
There’s also the new Vaccum-1 and 2 punching well above that of the older 125mms.
That’s why they can’t produce them in higher numbers.
Newer tech, and a lot more material is needed for the hull, gun, ammo, etc.
It wasn’t mis information…? Thanks for assuming. No, it was hit by an RPG-7, disabled, then abandoned. There’s a few similar videos that can’t be posted, because the crew likely didn’t survive.
I think the trophy system is only good on paper, and likely only work 50% the time.
Because it’s a 152mm shell, what?
That’s like comparing a pz4’s 75mm to the long 88
More like half the electronics are affected by sanctions and they dont have the money to build a meaningful amount
And why would you assume russian APS is better in any way shape or form?
Over the entire conflict, the IDF lost just under 30 Merkavas of ALL variants (including the Mk2s and Mk3s they were fielding), with less than 50 being damaged beyond reasonable repair, far from your 500 number
