Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

Russia:



  • clearly if these were so “good” why is the Su-34/30 1.0 kd or lower?
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    Where’s my Russian bias like my meme squadron implies exists??

Germany:

USA:



  • according to statshark, the H-34 needs to go up in br, clearly way too potent for 7.7 helis.

France:

Brits:


Italy:

Temu:

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would you look at that, they’re all quite effective!
Also, most other Helis perform better than Russian ones, crazy!

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ah yes

the same helicopter has the best stats for winrate, kills per spawn and kills per death

and you are trying to argue that it is not the best in the game
clearly you do not know how to read the stats you are referencing

Okay, so Abrams, Leopard 2A5+, etc should be the entirety of the top end of Statshark above all Soviet, Israeli, French, etc vehicles.
Huh… The correlation factor is <50%. Leopard 2PSO, 2A5, and 2PL are notably below that of inferior [or arguably on-par] tanks such as T-80U, T-72B3A, CV90120, Merkava Mk4B/LIC/M, Ariete AMV…
I sorted by RP per match, because Win Rate is even less correlation than RP per match.

This includes Air RB games for them, so completely irrelevant in a discussion about Ground RB. We would need the separate stats for each game mode.

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Seriously, have you played a single game of top tier ground since tusk force went live?

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because these stats are affected by the entire lineup not just the specific vehicles capability hence why I showed winrate of a lineup and some of its key members not just vehicle winrate

One of the worst things about stats in war thunder is that there isn’t a way to split AI/player kills, and kills in different modes. For example, the Su-34 isn’t the best in air RB, and its stats will reflect that.

Win rate is affected by the entire teams’ lineup and skill composition.
That’s even more variables! XD

Winrate is too heavily influenced by flavour of the month, and is too dependent on team skill to make a conclusive decision on what is better performing.

Still doesn’t change the fact that Sweden and Germany have the best MBTs at the moment tho.

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Being this naive takes skill. You astonish me daily, don’t shirt circuit in your response.

Winrate isn’t decided merely on KDr, as I explained earlier on how Russian KDr was lower with higher wr.

It’s likely the ground forces are doing the leg work while the combined arms (aka the heli) provides support.

  1. If nato players respawned instead of 1 lifting every match maybe the stats would change. Problem is the only one life and don’t spawn spaa leaving the air uncontested. When I flew my Mi-28NM, I only was harassed by an Adats. And a F-15, and F-16 which were very blind.

  2. The other helicopters have a lower wr, but very close KDr. That tells us they are all quite effective and perform similarly.

Don’t get upset because you refused to post the whole picture the first time.

Absolutely correct. Similarly, I wouldn’t be surprised if certain NATO planes have crazy inflated ground kills in stats sharks because they can farm ground targets in air RB with the GBU-39. Easy way to grind the plane once you unlock them, and they’re usually on the first modification line.

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Several in fact. Nothing has changed.

I have to simply believe that you haven’t, as there is absolutely no way you have played a reliable sample of games and come to the conclusion that the Mi-28 is in any way equal to any other nations’ helicopter.

These things are a swarm every single game, firing off LMUR’s from the helipad then immediately landing to rearm, rinse and repeat. They are immune to CAP and SPAA. They add absolutely no gameplay value. I am a CAS advocate, but the the Mi-28 is ridiculous and its dominance should be stamped out(but it’s Russian, so we’ll have to wait at least a year before a balance issue is addressed).

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it is not, as you have show earlier by looking at russian tank stats

so it is clearly the overpreforming CAS contributing to the winrate, which is very obvious due to MI28NM having a higher winrate than any other high tier russian vehicle

maybe thats because there is literally nothing they can do to counter you

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Russian heli gets added (KA-50) > people complain about it > it gets nerfed

Hmm where have I seen this before?

I do agree they should fix the Ldircm of all those helis, but I must add in the 20ish games I played as USA with China / Russia on the opposing team I only saw 1 Mi-28nm.

Weird cuz Su-30/34 aren’t doing very well.

Also what? I posted literally all sorts of photos unlike your targeted anti Russian photos.

GOOD, helis shouldn’t be free kills to CAP. Where as CAP has an AF to protect, helis have themselves and that’s all.

proof that you dont understand what you are talking about
because their stats include ARB not just GRB like the others

you mean I posted pictures of the following: every tank winrate by BR and Nation, the highest winrate top tier MBT, and the highest winrate heli in the game

and proving that you dont understand what balance is, or how games work

oh also proof of your bias, as you are already complaining about 64e and z10me being OP despite being much more counterable than MI28NM, but according to you the MI28 is fine and even a good thing for the game

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Can you genuinely not see that the Mi-28 has a much better K/S and K/D than any other heli?

Russian MBTs are fine, their helis are OP (every other one is, but the Mig-28 is more so), and they are tied for best CAS in the game. Their SPAA is also decent from what I’ve seen, especially compared to what other nations are stuck with.

I have a few solutions:

  1. Nerf LDIRCM
  2. Nerf CAS in general (move the airfields back and force an airfield spawn point. Guided weapons should also cost more, and A2A missiles should cost nothing.
  3. Fix the underperforming AA that nations like China or Israel are stuck with.
  4. Decompress CAS up to 14.0.
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I doubt Gaijin is doing that with all these new AAs.

Fairy tail non sense, go find an example of me being “biased” like you claim.

I’ll wait
mr-bean-mrbean

You mean proof statshark isn’t a great resource? Shocker.

Also your last point still fails to make any sense

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