The lineup is legit T-80BVM/T-80U and friends.
If you are going to count the T-72s and T-90s as solid MBTs I’m going to count my Challenger 2 OES as a just as solid MBT.
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Ahem and what is the T58?
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That’s a flat out ragebait lie.
How can you genuinely think that low of nation mains?
How can you claim they’ve been stating such wrong things?
Everyone knows Russian bias doesn’t exist.
Also Statshark in October shows no domination by any tech tree. Players sure, but players aren’t tech trees.
Unless you’re going to claim the Leopard 2A7HU is the best tank in War Thunder…
Even @Alpharius11348 proved your claims wrong by stating the team skill [win rate] of teams with Soviets was higher. No where in Alpharius’s post is there non-skill based evidence.
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What’s the weather like on Pluto these days?
Meanwhile… on planet Earth.
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I’ll tell you exactly how to win in a War Thunder match:
Fill your vehicle slots with MBTs, a SPAA/air superiority fighter, and sometimes a light tank.
If you want to get fancy, put in a helicopter.
Then use those slots to control the ground and win the match.
Why do you think the win rates are highest among tech trees whose players don’t bring CAS?
It’s mathematically proven as well.
100 - 150 spawn points for a first spawn tank.
For top helicopters, the spawn points of tanks don’t get more expensive until the 4th spawn. 5th for jets with IR AGMs.
And that math translates to real-world matches.
I cannot count how many times my teams have lost because they spawned CAS… it’s in the thousands.
I can count how many times my teams have won due to spawning CAS on one hand, and one of them was me at BR 7.7 where my F-84G helped me get a nuke with France.
Every single win that isn’t a nuke results in battles around points or the winning team in the enemy spawn.
Edit:
Fixed wing CAS was OP, but it wasn’t winning matches.
When NATO had OP CAS for 3 years, Soviets were claimed to be OP despite not having any OP CAS for 2 of those years… because they were forced to use cheaper spawning vehicles which let them drain the enemy spawn points faster. Both in superior skill and basic game knowledge.
When USSR got Su-34? Win rates went down… I don’t need to wonder why because the math predicted it.
This is reliant on player decisions, and this idea about winning matches will be wrong in some areas in the near future. Most of what’s in this post replaced previously incorrect information.
SPAA Octomber
Kings - Iris-t, Sky sabre
Average - SAMP/T, Pantsir, BUK, Elde, CLAWS, CS/SA5, ITO
Losers - SPYDER, TAN-SAM
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The Spyder is a double loser since it was also moved to 12.7 for some unknown reason lmao.
What has that to do with BVM vs 2A7 ?
errrrr something something reverse speed and gun depression, i promise russia is actually really bad bro, you just haven’t played every russian tank so you can’t weigh in
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your wrong, when you start with the t72/90 serie, you get use to the slow reverse and the gun depression, but you unlock the bvm every thing change, sure i didnt play bvm but i got it and i tested for a while,
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But i have to say it’s actually impressive for Germany to have such a bad winrate, when they play with Russia a lot.
Is it really surprising that the BVM has better stats than the 2A7 when the 2A7 is getting farmed by LMUR and KH-38, same as anybody else not Russia right now?
let me think like you, so if russia win rate get low, i can blame the irst and brimstone and say why everyone is a german main
F-16I has won me easily dozen games since its addition one month and a half back so yikes, probably a you problem.
Brimstone? lmfao. Probably the worst CAS weapon at that BR with the laser GBUs.
But more seriously, yes, if Russian winrates were to suddenly drop below 40%, it would be more honest to look at why it’s happening from a lineup/vehicle standup than saying Russian tree players suck.
Your 45% winrate in it really underlines that.
you just dont know how to use it
Germany is probably the nation which plays together with Russia the most and they still manage to perform absolutely miserable.
I grinded the plane in air RB. Had a winrate of 15% in it during that time over quite a lot of games.(Probably the worst air RB experience I ever had). I also spawn it even in clearly lost ground games to grab some more kills.
Israel, I’m not sure why, constantly get matched against France in air RB, and very often against France + Russia.
Anyway, its ability to instantly get 10 kills if you’re lucky enough to not face the good AAs like IRIS when you spawn it can be a game winner.
You’re really going to argue Brimstone is better than KH-38, Hammer, AGM-65, Spice? It’s one of the worst top tier CAS weapon.
not kh38 or agm65, but all the other like guided glide bomb, the brimstone is better/faster/cant miss/can launch with gnss and guided last second/you get at least 8 of them each plane/can be launched over mach. its for sure you never played it, i can see it on you