i mean as i can see you shot so high you actually cound hit a UFP so no pen is okay.
Tho same usually does not occure on Leopards or Abramses, they also have some “no damage” penetrations to side armor, mainly damaging only turret baskets
same as sweden remain having best tanks ingame tho.
USSR can keep up with tanks so they have good air.
When the US cant keep up with tanks, they also have good air (hello Walleye A-4).
There’s no logical fallacy to point at
Autoloader definition isn’t even set in stone
You have a mechanism that takes the shell from magazine to the chamber without any crew member having to touch the round. It does the job of a manual loader, which is why AMX-13 can be so low profile and only has 3 crew members. That’s all there is to it really.
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@UNN_Daedalos By the way, fun fact but when Scorpion said that about composite armor
Even that isn’t really correct 💀.
The first country to create a working composite was the USA in 1957-58 with the T95E6. It was steel–fused-silica–steel sandwich plates made specifically to provide better resistance against HEAT. The US ended up not mass producing the design because they judged that the trade-off in quality-number wasn’t worth it. They chose more tanks on the field with steel armor rather than less with composite.
So while the USSR was the first to mass-produce it on a service tank, the US had a tested, working, full-scale design ready for production before the USSR.
Not the doom turtle, but this:
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There is also the pilot XM60 hull as well.
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https://youtube.com/shorts/xnD7c_lO2q4?si=uFAkma9Vfkrdblcn
This is what a manual assist loader is. This is on the Merkava Mk4. See how a crew member still has to manually load the shell into the breech.
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Yes, Russia wasn’t the first to play with this. I’ll do some shameless self-quoting :
The problem I have with UniqueScorpions is that he’ll take one of the steps that leads to a technology being fully developped to justify russia inventing it. And invent its own criterias, such as the autoloader. Nothing says an autoloader doesn’t require human action, the definition isn’t even set in stone. It just loads the round for a human.
Arguably, basically every country making tanks got involved in the development of these technology at one point or an other.
USSR, focusing more on tanks in its doctrine, did a lot in the last step, which i would call integration and mass production. But it didn’t “invent” by itself
By the way, what i mentionned earlier does not come from my own mind, it’s a documented process :
Sources :
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Well, the Russians also donated around 500 tanks during the conflict. You could say that Russia has donated more tanks than the entire West combined.
This war has shown that drones are the greatest danger in warfare, and that’s why everyone will do whatever it takes, however minimally, to protect the vehicle. That said, it’s always better to be in a vehicle that has a chance of saving the crew than in one where you could be 100 meters above the ground at the slightest provocation.
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Wow both sides adapting to a weapon they both field? Must be one side copying the other. Anyway this is getting off topic so lets bring it back to the game and not an IRL conflict.
Says the man complaining about a tank i dont even know existed, sit down and continue to play the game that you so despise, and on top of that. Says “go outside” when he plays a tank that most dont even know probably exists and yaps abt it on a forum like his highness has better things to do. LOL
But no, be a clueless brit main and barge into convos without reading like you said. Funny it hasnt worked out well enough
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Having now recently play’d both. Until the Chally gets the increased HP seen in the dev server rn, it is the worst MBT I have ever play’d by far. The Ariete at minimum has an ok acceleration to it. Of all the tanks I’ve play’d, Russian and Japanese tanks preformed the best. Leopards were great for awhile but that turret basket addton has killed any joy in playing them or the Abrams.
I agree there’s too much grey area into what is what.
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there was even add on composite armor tested on a sherman to defend against german infantry AT weapons
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Ahh, what beautiful photos. Now show me the videos where those tanks detonate after the first impact, please.And don’t tell me there aren’t any videos, because in this war everything is recorded.
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Well done Ivan. Now post the 100s of Soviet T-series tanks that have thrown their turrets (and crews) into orbit since those photos were taken.
Seriously, Russia takes out 1 or 2 Challengers and they are virtually screaming that they’ve defeated NATO. They lose half a battalion of T-72s to Temu drones and that’s just a weekday.
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The Challenger was hit by a Lancet drone and suffered an ammunition explosion. The Leo 2A4s were Turkish and fighting ISIS. They were bombed by Turkish aircraft after being knocked out to prevent capture.
It’s against ToS to post videos.
And this is why nobody likes nato players…
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Not because someones propoganda turned them into unbeatable miracles of machinery that will drive back those whole armies alone.
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Were you gooning on that? Or what?