Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

Well only thing you argued with it is that it’s important organisation with important people and nothing more which points to superior intellect ofcourse.

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I mean you could do the bare minimum and read a tiny bit about the Organisation. Because I think an Organisation founded by former world bank employees that create an index based on direct survey data from experts and research from reputable international institutions do actually know what they’re doing even if a random war thunder forum dude who has no discernible expertise whatsoever thinks they don’t.

I mean read his comments and tell me how someone could arrive at a different conclusion

Take it easy lol , it is not that deep man.

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Depends my lineuo.

All my 12.0 abrams are expert.

11.3 as well

10.7 germany, yup.

10.7 Britain yup with 2 or 2 cr2 expert.

You earn the money back rapidly, i could do all 4 of the leopard 2s i have e.g 2pl, pso a5 and a6, without worrying.

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Irregardless of how insulting it was.

He never mentioned the strength of the insult, he refered to the consistency of them, you have now insulted him several times on something completely unrelated to the game man.

You wanna call him blisteringly stupid, yet can’t understand the difference between quantity and intensity.

Shut up talk about the game or mute the guy.

Yet here you are.

The world bank? The same organisation which fell into total disarray in the 2010s due to huge amounts of corruption and date manipulation and such?

Their survay data as well on more then a few occasions has been panned due to their methodologies as well as manipulation of the data.

Wouldn’t exact trust them either boss. So again stop insulting him because you disagree, it isn’t that big.

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It’s armour is overall worse than that of thr strv 122 mate.
The 122s are considered by many to be the best protected top tier in game, as well as this it lacks a lot on the department of survivability.

New rounds for what exactly? They have to keep some semblance of balance, for example the best round britain and russia have rn are already in game…l28a1 wouldn’t change much due to how they model it.

So why should other nations get rounds witb nearly 100 extra pen?
Given that the formula used also arbitrarily nueters most rounds as well.

Those extra few moments make a difference for who can shoot first.
Which matters.

Ah okay so the huge ability in leopard to sit hull down in more places and ve more protracted doesn’t matter? Bit of a wild thought but alright man.
Just discount anything that disagrees with your point.

You seem to not know what omnidirection is, the leaopards can change backwards in more than just a straight line at substantially higher speeds, allowing fot faster turning of the vehicle especially if you’re retreating.

But alright.

I did it for usa, ive done it for isreal, ive done it for britain.

Why wouldn’t you do it?

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„Mommy mommy the evil man called the stupid guy stupid, do something“

Phew well then it’s a good thing that Transparency international was founded in 1993 and uses far more sources than just the worldbank. I swear you guys are too lazy to do even surface level reading into the things you comment on.

You sound like a small child, what can’t handle being told that you’re being out of line?
There will always be daft people out their, no need to sit and insult a random dude cause you don’t agree.

Even if they are stupid, what gives you the right to insult them when throughout the entire process have made plenty stupid comments yourself?

Same organisation that for decades has ignored corruption in any and almost all business / economic fields ?

  • Same organisation which is massively influenced by central european powers and again has been caught
    In the early 2000s manipulating data?

  • The whole fiasco with snowden ring any bells for their corruption?

  • Or how about taking huge bribes.of over 3 million euros.from a German company, siimens or siemens or something.

Shall i keep going about why the sources you’re hammering on about arent credible ? Thats just off the top of my head as well btw never mind if i go actually look it up.

  • Edit the fact tbey had to discredit both the US and Croatian branches due to corruption and abuse of insider information as well as data manipulation

  • Even had to investigate abuse of power between 2017 and 2021 across more than 1 of their branches due to bullying and such.

Shows how unreliable they are.

  • Abused power and data in brazil to help the right wing goverment , so much for anti corruption.

  • give you one from where i live. Ti have signed deals of transparency with the political party which leads my country, the same political party which as we speak gets crowds to attack politicians who disagre.
    Has been caught spending hundreds of millions of tax payer money, as well as breaking international sanctions on a whim.

Mr surface level reading.
Rather than sit and throw insults around, check your own stuff before acting overly confident with it.

I didn’t even agree with the other bloke earlier, now his quip about your overconfidence actually seems rather fitting.

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You sound like cultist

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Even from what I know of them, they’re not as credible as they would have you believe.
As I listed above.

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Yet, the BVM can survive every round in the game in the front plate, just like the 122, while having smaller weakspots. Make it make sense.

Strv 122 is the one with small weakspots.
BVM’s turret itself is a weakspot, and of course LFP.

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90% of the people talking/making threads about russian bias do sound and act like cultists.

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It’s not relevant, since what you are claiming is a straight-up lie. Both the BVM and any leopard have near-identical weakspots in the turret.

Omnidirectional means something that performs something in all directions. A leopard can’t do that. And if you’re talking about turning, just to reverse in a different direction? That’s still reversing… 95% of the match, the T80BVM has the superior mobility. As I’ve already stated, it only fails when it comes to reversing.

Yes, you did. But the average player will put down nowhere close the amount of time you have played, instead choosing something more productive. You are not the norm. It’s unreasonable to believe that every crew of every tank in toptier is expert, and that the average player will put down several thousand hours into simply experting the crew of several nations in toptier.

You realise the BVm has the same composite layout as the T80B right?
The ERA saves it.

How is it a straight up lie?
The BVM has lower levels of turret protection.
larger breach weawk point.
less depression meaning that it has to expose both more of the turret and tank, as well as it also cannot use more effective hull down positions.

It’s not a lie at all buddy.

the leopard can actively turn the entire tank around faster than a BVM can, it can reverse and turn at the same time.
It also last I checked turns faster on the spot compared to the BVM:

You state that but the 2a6 and BVM have extremely close HP/PT as the 2A6 sits at what 25.2 or some nonsense and the 80 BVM sits at 26.6, theres barely a 1HP PT difference, which BTW doesn’t equate entirely to mobility, the low profile of the BVM means it tends to move ^slower in worse terrain, same as if you slam the Type 90s or the KPZ etc.

the time I’ve played?
whats that got to do with spending 1 million SL on a crew? xD

You cannot make it to top tier without a crew which is able to be made expert unless you buy a high BR prem and ODL.

I am also the average player I’ve a 1.0 KD in GRB and a 1.12 KD in ARB , that is pretty middling stats at best, time wise I’ve again pretty average time on the game over 5 / 6 years.

It is also unreasonable to assume everyone is not.

It doesn’t take several thousand hours at all, I’ve done GRB, ARB and even one naval tree to top tier in my tieme playing.

If someone is focusing on GRB primarily their tank crews will be eligible for expert by the time they are at rank 6 / 7

if you’ve got over 7 thousand matches like you do mate, as well as not having them spread across over 8 trees like me, you should definitely have expert crews.

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I don’t even want to know how many millions I spend on expert crews at top tier.

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Too many, and this dudes acting like we’re not average or normal players xD if we aren’t wtf is ?

  • I also expert almost if not every single afterburning jet due to the fact it’s a huge advantage.
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The dude has the Strv 122s and can’t do well in it, so I didn’t take it serious to begin with lol.

This so much, especially at top tier where expert often means the difference between life and death.

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Yeah I noticed mate, moaning about BVM as if it’s some top dog, then acts as if all the negatives about it aren’t that bad.

Like the fact 2a6 can load DM53 faster is wild, 6.3 seconds means YOU will fire first which means u win the engagement

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