I think the:
Su-27s
Su-34
Su-30SM
And maybe the Mig-29(9-13) are my expert vehicles for air.
And my B-25J, merely due to the quicker reload. Low tier planes is quite fun in mass bomber squads.
Other than that I think I expert more helis for survivability purpose.
Yeah, i have yet to learn how to use helis properly tbf.
Though its my next endevour.
Expert crews on every plane for the most part especially higher BRs as the advantages are absolutely noticeable
The ERA is still a part of the armor, no? And what does the T80B have to do with any of this?
The BVM is straight up smaller, there’s no way you’re convincing me that it has a larger weakspot when the entirety of the upper turret of a Leopard is an overpressure one-tap for any russian tank.
Why are you yapping about reverse speed all the time? Just accept that the BVM has better forward mobility; there’s no point in bringing up reverse if we both agree that the reverse is one of the drawbacks. And the better forward mobility is not made irrelevant by a poor reverse speed.
FYI, the 2A6 sits at 25hp/t. That is a 1.6hp/t difference, and the BVM has a higher top speed. And please, your feelings of how the BVM tends to move slower are pretty irrelevant here… let’s stick to the facts
I’m discussing how much you have played. 10k games in Ground alone, you have plenty of SL laying over to expert your crews. That’s not to speak of how much you have lying over from grinding air.
Please, your entire argument is relying on the false absolute that everyone at toptier has spent over four million SL on experting their crews, and that everyone has played several thousand games to have said millions laying over. For what? A 0.2 faster reload? The reality is, even if this false absolute were to be true, the reload rates would be almost identical. And since we’re discussing reload rates, your entire argument would be entirely negated by one party firing 0.2 seconds before the other.
You’re actively ignoring all of the pros of the BVM. Thermals? doesn’t matter. Reload? well, 25% of the time it’s 0.2 secounds worse! so that makes the BVM horrible reload!!! Forward speed that rivals the Type 10? B-But reverse speed is poor, so stop talking about mobility!!! “And in this one scenario when im on a hill…”. While completely also ingoring the strong frontal plate armor, survivability, small drivers weakspot etc.
Do you have any actual arguments other than “muh uh my bvm fires 0.2 seconds slower 25% of the time” or “but sometimes my bvm ricochets on a type10”.
Yes it’s so hard to get silverlions in this game.
The faster repair time is also a very big advantage.
Well aware, that’s not to do with my point.
I merely used it as an example to show you the composite array is the same on the 10.7 T80B it’s based off of.
Unlike say the 2a7 which is upgraded compared to the 2a4.
Got a shred of proof for that mate, not once has that happened to me across spading the 2pl,2a5 and A6.
Then you’ve absolutely no idea how dimensions work ?
The T80 has to expose more of itself, to use less areas of the map.
The T80 tank is lower they are in fact wider in general.
So the turret is naturally going to be wider just not longer. As we said the breach point on the 80BVM is marginally bigger
You completely ignored any and all relevance to it brushing it off massively.
Pretty dishonest of you. Though not surprising.
The fact is the lower profile of the vehicle means in worse terrain that is modelled in game, itll move slower.
Those are facts not feelings.
You seem to be getting emotional and aggravated over this, I’m not phased.
When i was at your point my entire top tier british lineup was experted.
You’re saying this as if you’ve played a fraction of what I have.
My SL gain isn’t relevant as well due to a large portion of my games in GRB being from before the economy overhaul when most games resorted in a loss. Especially as i wasnt as good then as now.
You don’t realise how your argumentative point is just the same but the reverse?
As you’ve seen almost everyone who responded to you has ar least some of their tanks aka 2 or 3 with expert crews.
@_Renzo does
Im sure @AlvisWisla will have
@UniqueScorpions-live did mention it too.
You’d be literally hampering yourself not to have expert crews past 11.0
For an advantage which will actively allow you to out shoot the opponent, even if it is a mere 0.2 seconds.
You know what a false absolute is right? Cause I’ve just reversed what you said, I never stated that everyone at top tier definitely, absolutely or certainly has an expert crew
I stated that most folks do, which is a generalised sweeping statement, not an absolute false.
Unlike what you stated that the average players dont have expert crews, which is you certifiably stating they do not have expert crews which is an absolute false.
So rather than sling English you know nothing about around, read what is said.
Reload isn’t a positive as weve discussed.
Thermals are gen 2/3 same as every 12.7 tank bar the 2a6 which as Gen 2 commanders thermals.
Its a massive detriment.
Survivability is garbage
Round is bellow average
Reload is below Average as most tanks get a 5 second reload with better rounds.
Mobility forwards is good sure but it’s not as if its unrivaled at the BR.
Most top tiers bar merkava and cr2 aren’t far apart mobility wise. Bar the soviet reverse speeds as china rectified that.
If you’d actually played any other nation than sweden which is meta then you’d have a clue why it’s not just me.telling you this.
Also the repair times for 3 crew arw worse.
The frontal plate armour is about the only actual good point…even then you have the turret ring, lfp, drivers port, breach and the fact you can nuke the crew and auto loader through the roof.
The entire turret ring on the T series tanks again if you’d used them you’d know.
Rather than coming on here to vent the big bad BVM is OP learn the game.
Except for the autoloader part, how is any of that different to quite literally any tank in the game?
I don’t have all the specifics but you can probably find them all on their official discord.
I definitely do, and it’s primarily to get better mobility.
It’s just slightly above middle of the pack, but if someone can barely make an uparmored Leopard 2 work then it’s not suprising that they struggle against a BVM.
Cause most tanks dont get spall downwards from a dart.
You can wipe the crew of a BVM through the top of it shock horror, due to the low profile.
Personally? For faster turret traverse tbh.
Find it helps quite a lot as well.
But yeah expert crews also help with mobility forgot about that.
Is what it is man, i used to blame the bvm years ago as well until I finally took russia up to the T80U .
Then i abandoned it for 2 years nearly only got the bvm before august.
And so better with the Vt4A
Chine is also getting AH64E, russia has always been 1 or 2 steps above the rest in game
Two steps in what? Isn’t everyone getting it?
Sure T Series tanks have a denser crew position but in the current situation most penetrations are a functional kill so the weakspots you mentioned are pretty universal
Universal to what ?
The survivability of T series is dog gone awful, my point is you can even kill them with a dart shooting the top of the tank unlike say leopard or abrams.
Germany had PARS far before anyone.
Russia and usa have been some of the last to get ir agms
64e has to be researched, then the missile has to be unlocked at bottom of tree. Mi28nm got lmur free…no unlock.
Oh no, you have to play the game to get something.
In all fairness, they weren’t always IR guided. For a year straight they were laser guided because of balance issues, made IR (and for a patch they were objectively busted), and then gaijin nerfed them into the ground to the point they became better Ka-52 killer than tank busters (lol).
The fact we have LMUR now and Gaijin is still doing nothing to unjack the PARS from the artificial nerfs they applied to it back in ~2021 is astonishing… then again the 2A7V still has nerfs that date back to the 2A5s introduction back in 2019 haha, and its own artificial ones…
I don’t remember them ever being laser guided. Post where you found that. As far as I ever knew, upon their introduction, they were IR. And spammed worse than anything else.
Also, you can’t say “artificial nerfs” with no context.