Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

Yet, the BVM can survive every round in the game in the front plate, just like the 122, while having smaller weakspots. Make it make sense.

Strv 122 is the one with small weakspots.
BVM’s turret itself is a weakspot, and of course LFP.

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90% of the people talking/making threads about russian bias do sound and act like cultists.

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It’s not relevant, since what you are claiming is a straight-up lie. Both the BVM and any leopard have near-identical weakspots in the turret.

Omnidirectional means something that performs something in all directions. A leopard can’t do that. And if you’re talking about turning, just to reverse in a different direction? That’s still reversing… 95% of the match, the T80BVM has the superior mobility. As I’ve already stated, it only fails when it comes to reversing.

Yes, you did. But the average player will put down nowhere close the amount of time you have played, instead choosing something more productive. You are not the norm. It’s unreasonable to believe that every crew of every tank in toptier is expert, and that the average player will put down several thousand hours into simply experting the crew of several nations in toptier.

You realise the BVm has the same composite layout as the T80B right?
The ERA saves it.

How is it a straight up lie?
The BVM has lower levels of turret protection.
larger breach weawk point.
less depression meaning that it has to expose both more of the turret and tank, as well as it also cannot use more effective hull down positions.

It’s not a lie at all buddy.

the leopard can actively turn the entire tank around faster than a BVM can, it can reverse and turn at the same time.
It also last I checked turns faster on the spot compared to the BVM:

You state that but the 2a6 and BVM have extremely close HP/PT as the 2A6 sits at what 25.2 or some nonsense and the 80 BVM sits at 26.6, theres barely a 1HP PT difference, which BTW doesn’t equate entirely to mobility, the low profile of the BVM means it tends to move ^slower in worse terrain, same as if you slam the Type 90s or the KPZ etc.

the time I’ve played?
whats that got to do with spending 1 million SL on a crew? xD

You cannot make it to top tier without a crew which is able to be made expert unless you buy a high BR prem and ODL.

I am also the average player I’ve a 1.0 KD in GRB and a 1.12 KD in ARB , that is pretty middling stats at best, time wise I’ve again pretty average time on the game over 5 / 6 years.

It is also unreasonable to assume everyone is not.

It doesn’t take several thousand hours at all, I’ve done GRB, ARB and even one naval tree to top tier in my tieme playing.

If someone is focusing on GRB primarily their tank crews will be eligible for expert by the time they are at rank 6 / 7

if you’ve got over 7 thousand matches like you do mate, as well as not having them spread across over 8 trees like me, you should definitely have expert crews.

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I don’t even want to know how many millions I spend on expert crews at top tier.

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Too many, and this dudes acting like we’re not average or normal players xD if we aren’t wtf is ?

  • I also expert almost if not every single afterburning jet due to the fact it’s a huge advantage.
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The dude has the Strv 122s and can’t do well in it, so I didn’t take it serious to begin with lol.

This so much, especially at top tier where expert often means the difference between life and death.

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Yeah I noticed mate, moaning about BVM as if it’s some top dog, then acts as if all the negatives about it aren’t that bad.

Like the fact 2a6 can load DM53 faster is wild, 6.3 seconds means YOU will fire first which means u win the engagement

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It makes a huge difference gameplay wise man, teh expert crew meaning you can pull harder without blacking out changes it massively.

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The problem is not that he disagrees with the index, the problem is that he claims it’s invalid due to the way it’s created which is complete and utter nonsense. I wouldn’t have called him stupid for a simple opinion but comparing a completely valid way to conduct statistics with gender studies or something is objectively stupid.

Surprise, no institution is flawless but they just have to be more reliable than the Russian government (in the case of this discussion) and have objective expertise in the topic they are researching.

Is the concept of believing experts in a free society so scary to you?

I mean where can i see this data. You know where do they get the data

I upgrade every single tank, heli and plane i have in every nation at top tier except SPAA.
And for other BR lineups just single ones.

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Ironic since you have been known to be the same for years now.

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And your source for “DM53 struggling” with K-5 is?

Oh right, vaporwave cus its you lol

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I remember the manufacturer of the round itself saying smth like
defeating tanks equipped with k5 is a considerably difficult affair
I don’t have the source on my hands right now this has been discussed on ru forums few months earlier.
However this aligns with in game implementation and i agree with it.
53 doesn’t have outstanding anti k5 features its a bm42 equivalent in this regard.
A3 is another story

Not that i[ matters sabot ammo is pointless

CAS has definitely become a thorn in GRB. After not playing TT ground in many months, I seen a huge uptick in CAS. It’s getting to the point where I die more from an air vehicle, than another tank.

They never stated that, i’ve all RHM brochures for DM53 and nothing like that was ever said. In fact they ALWAYS mention the opposite. In some they in fact outright say the round works on the same basis as Tandem ATGMs so it being “3BM-42 equal in this regard” is just yout fantasy lol.

Quit making things up.

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Tbf I’ve done that with the SU-27s because you pass out on the first little turn XD.

Ground? Only my favs tbh

Im not kidding, every single jet past about 10.0 i am using i will expert it.

I cannot stand pulling 10Gs then blacking out while the other guys out there like a UFO purely due to crew level difference.

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