“combat tested”
they dropped a few jdams
i wouldnt say shooting down a baloon is combat
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I am not your buddy and what are you even talking about, are you making things up again ?
If you can’t see how costs and the ability to actively produce something matters, i wont argue with you.
They have operated within combat zones, I agree it yet to see real combat on a technicality it is combat tested.
And I would add on that point that the Russian Federations VKS/VVS are the most combat experienced and that does count for something.
Explain how Ka-52 and AH-1Z are or were “sub-par”.
They do not need to produce more they have 140+ airframes.
So the cost to produce said airframe has already been spent 15 odd years ago.
A better comparison would be a Su-57 cost per unit to an F-35A
Sorry, i forgot that you think it is an untouchable plane which cannot be shot down.
Right, because money you spent on your car yesterday doesn’t matter anymore.
Or in this case just a few billions on top of trillions of dept.
You were the one bringing up F22.
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IIRC the critical tooling was preserved, so it wouldnt be that hard to restart production, just more expensive than congress sees as worth it
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They were sub-par because AH-60 and others were the same BR, then were only 0.3 higher.
The new SPAA came in at 12.0 which made them flat out unplayable outside specific maps.
Rooivalk was and still is 11.7 while being better than both.
So while there’s a superior helicopter 0.3 below them, AH-1Z and Ka-52 are usable again.
AH-1Z can even be part of a stacked 12.0 lineup while Ka-52 is stuck with T-80Us and T-72B3.
Not when I factor in my spend for that year it doesn’t, F-22 can and will be shot down in a peer 2 peer combat there is always the potential for failures it would be naïve to believe otherwise. It’s what the airframe achieves before that point.
Because we are talking about the capability differences between the West and Russia
Ah I thought they were destroyed, good to know
the F-35 isnt really an air supiriority fighter
it is a sensor or cas platform at best shown by its inabilty to carry internal IR missiles
and even then the cost per F-35 is higher than the number send by @Ghost_of_TelAviv earlier
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That’s more like it mate.
The Stuff from Thunderskill is not only ridiculously out dated, it is also never accurate within a small margin.
It shows it as if USSR has a 50 percent win rate when in reality it’s the worst out the big 3
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Do we know what export cost the Su-57 is offered at?
Oh yes F-35 is expensive and while not a dedicated air superiority aircraft it has the means to do it all.
However as you pointed out it is better served remaining near invisible to Radar and DL Aim120D/Aim260 shots from F-15EX and F-22.
so you need atleast 2 planes to operate effectively instead of a single F-35
increasing the cost even further, because now you need to planes to do the job of what a single plane has done, which isnt great for fuel consumption either
and think of all the CO2 that yould be saved by only having a single jet for the job /s
The 3BM60 is absolutely not a lol pen cannon, it sits quite comfortably in the middle of top tier roughly.
On one tank in the BVM
The T72’s aka T90M has the slowest top tier reload.
T80 BVM is a fixed 6.5 which is slower than all my leopards, leclercs, Challangers, merkavas, Abrams as well as most the other MBTs such as ariete and what not.
They don’t if they get penned they die almost every time due to ammo or fuel explosion or crew wipe.
What russian Tank features a coaxial HMG? Bar the damn T10M or OBJ 279 which aren’t at all what are spoken about?
Last i checked the T90M has a 7.62 MM coax
1 BVM at top tier which is an average tank, T80U is pretty poor with 3bm46 though the mobility is nice.
The T90M is gash, theres literally two top tier MBT’s for Russia, in which one is a slow heavy T72.
Fun fact HE can also nuke T90M from teh roof
As should be done
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Aren’t you the one arguing for the SU-57 here? “the ability to actively produce something matters” is NOT an argument you should use LMFAO
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I will be honest I am not going to pretend I have any Idea on the capabilities of an F-35. I would imagine it is excellent and can fight in the A2A environment if needed.
The problem the F-35 has is it had to follow from the F-22 and had to meet so many requirements for all 3 branches of the US armed forces. The more F-35s sold and procured will bring the overall cost per unit down.
Similar to what Russia is doing with the Felon now they are offering it to reduce the cost per unit and cover some of those development costs while also pursuing other programmes the Su-75 and the unnamed 6th Gen
Hahahaha explain how Rooivalk is better than Ka-52.
it definitely can, it can carry very effective long range air to air missiles
and acording to reports on the F35A it can keep up with an F16 in a dogfight while caring internal air to ground ordinance and extra fuel
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I don’t believe the US would accept an airframe that couldn’t
F-35 has had a long standing smear campaign and I’m not going to say who has been actively trying to smear it…But we all know