Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

And who are you to decide if others have a right to comment?

Because you say so?

Sit down. This is not World of Tanks and people can discuss supposedly historical equipment without jumping to WN8, sorry, Statshark

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Lmao saying this when talking about the T-90M is wild.

Just confirms the skill issue even more.

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Yeah and I can call people out for being bad at the game, misunderstanding the game and/or misrepresenting the strengths and weaknesses of a tank to push their agenda.

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Like wanting the nation they play/like buffed or the imbalanced advantages kept? Be my guest.

I mean if people still want to pretend that the T-80s/T-90s are imbalanced they are free to do so in private.

But as soon as they post it online I’m going to challenge that delusion.

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Sure thing. Challenge what you think is a delusion, it’s your right to do so. Pretend the game is balanced, it’s your right to do so, too. But instantly jumping to stats doesn’t address the problem with vehicles and their different play styles. Just because you do well in a vehicle doesn’t make it on par with another vehicle you also play well. Would you say the Merkavas are better than T80BVM? Because you also do very well in those.

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The thing is that we have already tried that multiple times, people have actually argued with Bowman before but it won’t change their mind.

Some people just convince themselfs that they are right, even though their point can be explained by them not understanding the game or just being bad.

That is actually a really good question. I would kind of say yes, but it’s the same case as with the Abrams. I would say that the BVM has the lower skill floor but the Merkava Mk.4 has a higher skill ceiling.

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OK maybe you have had personal dramas before. I for one don’t remember people and refrain from commenting on that.

There are real-life doctrinal differences. Russian gears are designed to steamroll in large formations and are somewhat disposable. In-game it’s press W and win. Many NATO tanks are designed as movable fortresses that can hull-down and hold defense lines, notably Challengers and to an extent the Abrahams. I can’t say whether they’re balanced in real life, but war thunder is a game with favoured ways to play. It just seems that having an OK forward speed, OK gun, minimal frontal weakness is better suited for the game than indestructible turrets with paper hulls. Also if you forward faster you get to strategic spots sooner.

Besides, the cannon breach on Challengers is much more vulnerable than T80/T90 because of the larger area where anyone can easily penetrate. I wouldn’t say they are as good as the BVM, yet you have them at the same BR. That’s what I call an imbalance.

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This is getting funny.

How is this a pro of any tank in general lmao ?

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122s sat at the same BR as Challengers for years, that’s how compression works.

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So that’s an imbalance right?

Edited. Didn’t want to sound aggressive

You tell me how you feel about compression.

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The challengers are pretty bad/overBRed, but the Abrams is actually as good or better than the BVM. Having good all round mobilty with incredible firepower is just massive.

The problem with armor is that it relies on the enemy having bad aim. If the enemy has good aim the armor suddenly isn’t an advantage anymore, while mobility and firepower will always be advantages.

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Don’t make it sound as if I were pro-compression or what. Compression and imbalance are the exact same issue. To say there is no imbalance because there is compression misses the point entirely.

Well, I wouldn’t say the Abrahams are bad. But it’s easier to kill an Abraham when teamed up with a T80 than killing a T80 when playing solo and join Team America. Personal experience.

Abrahams are like Challengers, but better in every way, at the same BR.

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I don’t think they necessarily need to be.
One tank can be kept at a lower BR for whatever reason Gaijin has, which will make it unbalanced in an, otherwise perfectly decompressed environment.

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If a tank is imbalanced, Gaijin moves it up to a higher BR. If a top tier tank is imbalanced, How could Gaijin move it even higher? There must be a reason some nations do well in most BRs and suddenly go sub-50 win rate at top, and vice versa.

Just telling you how unbalance and compression don’t have to be the same thing.

Major nations are all terrible or under 50% WR when it comes to that at multiple tiers in the higher end.

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And I’m telling you if this being true, there is more of an imbalance problem than a compression problem at top tier.

Funny how you brought up compression in the discussion and have now disowned it.

Top tier was and still is compressed, which is easily seen by many vehicles being either good or bad for their BR.