I don’t have it, but I came to this conclusion anyway. See the connection?
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This connection does not apply to the tanks.
People complaining about RU tanks in late 2025.
Wake up guys, it’s not 2020. anymore.
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No they’re not
How about high-skilled player shooting driver’s port and round just disappearing? How about the same happening with autoloader/side ERA/cannon breach? How about when they’re using bushes? How about them using this game’s poor netcode and negating incoming damage by just wiggling a bit? They’re not the best choice for the good player, but they’re the ultimate one from beginner to medium, which is like 95% of this game’s playerbase. Small weakspots and trolly armor and you play against cowbarns which you can lolpen pretty much anywhere except for some spots.
It does, I’m not pointing out a matter, I’m pointing out a principle.
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- Low(est) silhouette
- Good speed
- Good round/lolpen gun
- Good reload/autoloaded
- Massively overperforming ERA
- Most feature coax HMG
- Great survivability(when they shouldn’t)
- Multiple variants of the same tank + great air/CAS and SPAA lineup
Cons:
- Bad depression(not really that important given the low silhouette and the majority of maps’ designs)
- Some have very poor reverse speed.
- ???
There is nothing, literally nothing objectively bad about Russian tanks besides the gun depression, which doesn’t matter the majority of the time thanks to the nature of Gaijin’s map design.
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I have the OES and I do more than fine in it.
But it’s always easier to blame the tools to cover a skill issue.
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And who are you to decide if others have a right to comment?
Because you say so?
Sit down. This is not World of Tanks and people can discuss supposedly historical equipment without jumping to WN8, sorry, Statshark
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Lmao saying this when talking about the T-90M is wild.
Just confirms the skill issue even more.
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Yeah and I can call people out for being bad at the game, misunderstanding the game and/or misrepresenting the strengths and weaknesses of a tank to push their agenda.
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Like wanting the nation they play/like buffed or the imbalanced advantages kept? Be my guest.
I mean if people still want to pretend that the T-80s/T-90s are imbalanced they are free to do so in private.
But as soon as they post it online I’m going to challenge that delusion.
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Sure thing. Challenge what you think is a delusion, it’s your right to do so. Pretend the game is balanced, it’s your right to do so, too. But instantly jumping to stats doesn’t address the problem with vehicles and their different play styles. Just because you do well in a vehicle doesn’t make it on par with another vehicle you also play well. Would you say the Merkavas are better than T80BVM? Because you also do very well in those.
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The thing is that we have already tried that multiple times, people have actually argued with Bowman before but it won’t change their mind.
Some people just convince themselfs that they are right, even though their point can be explained by them not understanding the game or just being bad.
That is actually a really good question. I would kind of say yes, but it’s the same case as with the Abrams. I would say that the BVM has the lower skill floor but the Merkava Mk.4 has a higher skill ceiling.
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OK maybe you have had personal dramas before. I for one don’t remember people and refrain from commenting on that.
There are real-life doctrinal differences. Russian gears are designed to steamroll in large formations and are somewhat disposable. In-game it’s press W and win. Many NATO tanks are designed as movable fortresses that can hull-down and hold defense lines, notably Challengers and to an extent the Abrahams. I can’t say whether they’re balanced in real life, but war thunder is a game with favoured ways to play. It just seems that having an OK forward speed, OK gun, minimal frontal weakness is better suited for the game than indestructible turrets with paper hulls. Also if you forward faster you get to strategic spots sooner.
Besides, the cannon breach on Challengers is much more vulnerable than T80/T90 because of the larger area where anyone can easily penetrate. I wouldn’t say they are as good as the BVM, yet you have them at the same BR. That’s what I call an imbalance.
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This is getting funny.
How is this a pro of any tank in general lmao ?
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122s sat at the same BR as Challengers for years, that’s how compression works.
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So that’s an imbalance right?
Edited. Didn’t want to sound aggressive
You tell me how you feel about compression.
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The challengers are pretty bad/overBRed, but the Abrams is actually as good or better than the BVM. Having good all round mobilty with incredible firepower is just massive.
The problem with armor is that it relies on the enemy having bad aim. If the enemy has good aim the armor suddenly isn’t an advantage anymore, while mobility and firepower will always be advantages.
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Don’t make it sound as if I were pro-compression or what. Compression and imbalance are the exact same issue. To say there is no imbalance because there is compression misses the point entirely.