This Is wrong btw
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@H_ngma if you refer to his sentence, i wasnt really asked or told a kh38MT or su30sm. For that matter it really isnt my issue. The thing is, after all that discussion in a closed forum of if the missile was real or not. Seems like even the Forum moderators proved the existence of the IR Seekker which u try finding so much proof of.
But anyway, shall we talk about how the Hammer that the french have a bullshit seeker that tracks moving targets which it cant? and was proven lol
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Yep, so wrong that people who died to the R27ER died on the basis of not flying low which allowed you to dodge any SARH missile without an issue. 100 meters of multipathing was absolutely fine, and if u died to an ER that was ur fault. Best part of the same shitters who wanted to lower multipathing to match their “realism” standards hated it when the F14s now shat on F4s,Mig23s,MirageF1Cs because multipathing was reduced to 60m and made the game worse for far longer than the ER having any impact due to fox3s coming out.
Also for how long ERs remained the best SARH missile, Multipathing was the absolute easiest option and the mig29s received a nerf. On top of that IRCCM meta dropped and insanely changed the way the game was being played to the point of SARH still not being dominant, and oh how can i forget baby gripen with a bullshit flight model and 6x Aim-9Ms absolutely causing havoc
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Not really
Photos are a thing, results are an other. Today there is no results (thankfully might i add)
It is a poor attempt at ragebait (besides i’m pretty sure that’s a ML, not a MT)
What a reverse rage bait, when the guys posted that kh38 firing onto said objects and the moderators deleted it because of war footage. So deal with it, go ask those mods to help you out w it
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Because he clearly meant the MT (because a laser guided KH38 is not really a wonder in the 21st century) , you seem to struggle with context my dude.
Not really, they said that it might exist however nothing if it was ever tested and/or flown on a plane we have in game
Oh we can, the seeker doesnt work irl like it does in game, because Gaijin cant be bothered to properly model it but at least the seeker exists and was tested and fired and so on.
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So true Lawrenczio
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again, vague context is his issue and yours, you clearly lack so called “reading comprehension” which you give others shit for, when he just mentioned Kh38s, again not my issue.
All the forum mods could have objected to it, whilst one moderator even said “its proven it has an IR seeker what more do you want”
again, if the mods so disagreed with it, why not take it up with the devs, they can make further more internal reports and clarification which they never did.
Heck even smin never has been asked to shown proof. Any of the CM and Mods can go ask the devs for clarification of the IR seeker which u so much look for. Ask them to ask the devs to deliver their source. Smins did that with when the su30sm double pylon proof was asked, and he said it came from the devs
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Even as a russian Main, i objected to that su30sm Double pylon photo which was nothing but a fov mishap or misunderstanding that allowed it to look like a double pylon. And when we asked smins that the photo isnt correct. he said it came from the devs.
You guys have the luxury of pressuring the devs. Do it. Like we did for the 30sm double pylon
If were actively talking about the KH38MT being fake then its not vague context but ok well do our best to make our comments as accessible as possible from now on.
No one ever said that, because there literally is no proof.
Ofc they dont the KH38MT is a topic Gaijin doesnt want to be discussed.
We did that mutiple times and nothing came of it and like you just commented, the only thing we got is the obvioulsy wrong photo of the SU30SM.
Its 100% clear that these 2 examples are just the Gaijin devs giving russia some extra treatment to bolster their performance.
I mean you can go discuss it in the AASM thread, this one is for the russian posing a balancing problem at top tier. But sure, it’s poorly modelled in game and deserves a fix
But hey its pointless what this thread is or not. What have u gained out of it? This title alone is getting laughed on. Dont think any CM or Mod has really been active here, the outcome is nothing really.
Cant wait anyway to see the winrate increase rightfully for Russia. Been damn time since the LMURs got their place in the game, couldnt care what happens to kh38s
Because it’s whataboutism. Everything is much better when each subject is in its own thread
And if it does not matter anyway, why do you bother writing here ?
well i bother when i can kill time for my own amusement reading these threads. Cuz i know nothings changing. Would you prefer it if only Nato mains who likely have an ego for losing against russia in a game they try to make realistic( funnily why not make realism across the board and ruin the game with realistic repairs and destruction, lets see how much fun u guys have then) or dont have russia itself discuss in this thread only? And I mean that is no offence really or disrespect. Seems like what it is.
Heh sometimes they do
Spall liner for example.
Not quite. Full realism would of course not be fun, however russia’s got preferential treatment within the boundaries of what Gaijin considers “realistic”.
I will note that the thread is called “Russia steamrolling NATO” but it does in fact not concern NATO vehicles only. Israel, China, Japan also seem to suffer when it comes to mechanic implementation.
For example :
- G overload for missiles is modelled => Western manpads get 2/3rd of their overload based on an assumption
- Spall is modelled => Russian caroussel eats spall but does not create any when hit
- KH38MT exists in game while more evidence is usually demanded when introducing weaponry to an aircraft.
- LDIRCM is modelled in game but poorly, yet they chose to introduce it anyway.
- The moment they realize LMUR can’t do anything to Merkava’s and 122s because they have good roof armor, they nerf it immediately, yet KH38 had no counter for years before the modern AAs were introduced.
There are also mechanics that would favor nations that aren’t russia, like LOAL for Spikes or the incoming Akeron. We know Gaijin knows how to model it, because they did it for the 2077 Warfare april fools event, but they decided to not introduce it for balance. That contrasts a bit with LDIRCM, LMUR and KH38 introduction, does it not ?
For example they almost added spall liners for Russia only before a serious backlash, Buk working as stand alone is also a mechanic only russia has. Now that being said we can make a bet : EBRC Jaguar (upcoming french light tank) can hear where the enemies are using a microphone and a bit of tringulation. If I were to implement it as a dev it would work a bit like a RWR that triggers when an enemy tank shoots, and it marks the caliber of the tank that fired.
→ I’m betting this mechanic won’t be introduced in game
This and some little phrasing like “We believe it’s a marketting lie” on a EF bug report or “we assume” in the Manpads article seems to show some amount of bias from the dev’s part, and keep in mind it’s only what is shown.
I will add that if russian mains really wanted to have a balanced tree, they would argue for decompression at 7.0-8.0 where their early cold war tanks are quite meh, instead of defending some quite busted weaponry or mechanics
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Realistic game filled with fakes and disputed stats because classified documents exist ?
Realistic game that adds waifu packs ?
They’re known to add fictional things for balancing reasons, so giving RU tanks a bit faster reload and reverse speed wouldn’t be all that strange. They don’t need to add OP CAS in order to balance their tanks, as tanks can be balanced on their own.
Gaijin’s actions scream balance > realism.
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100% agree. And id say money > realism as well. But there is a limit to how much fantasy the community can take before they complain or before war thunder becomes just another WoT clone
Japan is Russia now, got it.
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Don’t mind him, he’s just trying to divert attention from his nation of choice so people don’t see how handheld and pampered to it is.
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