Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

People who still think the KA-50 is over powered are crazy. It’s an 11.3 without the gen 1 thermal it should’ve had.

In fact I’m pretty sure it’s the only helo above 10.7 without any ability to fight in night time conditions.

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Probably not, laser guided ammo seems to be much more deadly with similar warheads than self guiding ones.
I personally can’t compare the hellfires and the JAGMs but I know the difference between brimstones and PARS. The first one slaps the second one doesn’t

Something I didn’t even know until I was flying the Black Hawk around is you can launch all ATGMs without losing track. I thought that was removed on every helo.

Hellfires are good. The odd tank may need a second hit (like the type 90 from last night) but most explode with one hit

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lolno
Soviets haven’t been ahead of anyone since Mig-23MLD, which was for exactly 1 update.

HSTVL is already in the game, which is better than 2S38 in all anti-tank ways except thermal generation.
Play it.

Agree, the hstvl is great the only problem is the lack of rounds it has and the round doesn’t spall much.
The 2s38 is very annoying and most people who play with it aren’t great at the game, i would say that i think the 2s38 needs to move up a br tho.

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The jagm’s are 50/50, before they sucked. Now after the update they are better, most tanks are one tap if they land on roof, if unlucky 2-3 missiles will do good. Every light tank is easy one tap every time. You will need to spam missile on anti airs like buk’s and pantsirs as they will easily intercept them. If you shoot enough missiles, then go down to dodge incoming missiles, pop up again and fire some more missiles. The anti airs will be easily overwhelmed.

Very good helicopter and amazing missile. They are slower than the hellfires but they are still faster than the LMUR’s and cm502KG.

If you’re good with it you’ll have an amazing kd ratio, i would say mines pretty good

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I won’t lie, the keybinds for locking missiles on controller are hard to figure out. Never have. Probably never will. So I shall never intercept :(

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I would strongly recommend getting kbm, that’s what i play on and it is so much easier

The way I deal with round count these days is I aim for a peak KDR in a match, and I go for that round count.
10:1 is about what I expect once in a while, so 26 rounds is more than enough for me.
If I was worse with my aiming, that’s still enough rounds for 5:1.

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It was when it was added, which is why it was relevant. Every part of the game has had at some point a very strong Russian vehicle dominating.

To be fair, a long time ago it was cl13b meta for the longest time. What was a mig17 gonna do against the best sabre in the game

CL-13 and even Hunters the last time Britain didn’t suck (Typhoon is the exception)

Every part of the game has also at some point had a very strong US, German or Swedish vehicle dominating. Whats your point?

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Just like USA in air, and Germany for naval.
Every nation has had a top dog at some point.

it was something around being a joke. Just to point out that USSR never went “steamrolling” after addition of LMUR

xD thats the entire point)

Fair point tho. Lets await the october stats then

At top tier? You bet!

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lmao, saying that when KH-38 have stomped, and I’d say going as far as ruined, top tier for more than a year is absolutely wild.

The Su-25SM3 was added on 13 March 2024 and it was already super oppressive due to the same team Pantsir protecting it and its ability to outrange any other AA. The Su-34 made it so much worse in November 2024 by putting the KH-38 on a supersonic platform. The Su-30SM buried what was left of balance because you could spawn both it and the Su-34 without suffering a SP tax since they were different aircraft classes.(that was only changed somewhat recently this year).

It was only in June 2025 that balance was finally restored with the new AAs…

Kh-38MT was ahead in the same way NATO CAS was.
NATO CAS was unkillable in War Thunder from 2022 to 2025.
Soviet CAS was unkillable for 1 year.

We got new SPAA as a response to Soviets being OP, but not when NATO was OP for 3 years.

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Lol, no. The only non-Russian CAS that ever truly was to the same level of stupidity as the Su-34+Su30SM combo was the Rafale + Mirage 2000D RMV. That’s it.

What are you even talking about? The Pantsir was added on 7 March 2023. Opposing CAS was dead from that moment on until pretty much the arrival of the F-16C with its targeting pod and AGM-65D on 19 September 2023.

And it was much easier to kill the F-16C with the Pantsir than it was killing the Su-34 with the other trash AA other than the ITO. The Pantsir always had the range and radar quality to threaten and kill the F-16C at range. The Su-34 was literally unkillable cause even the ITO missile simply couldn’t reach it as long as it chilled at ~12km distance.

Not even mentioning how much more reliable the KH-38 damage were, and their flight profile. It often happen to simply not kill a target with the AGM-65, even a pantsir back then, while the KH-38 is similar to LMUR with its one hit kill ability.

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@CyrusJacob
From 2022 to the 2nd half of 2024, Harrier GR7 was unkillable.
Pantsir was updated in the October 2024 update which increased its effective range to 16km, after that only stuff like F-16C, F-111F/C, Su-34, F-15E, etc were still OP unkillable.
Of course if Pantsir got any frag against those aircraft, it was purely due to a skill lapse among the CAS.

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The AA back then were often enough to deal with it.

Doesn’t change the fact it was so much more easier to kill these aircraft with the Pantsir… Never forget that the Flakrad radar is unable to detect at target flying at 16km distance - 5km height due to its poor radar search elevation. ADATS is the same. The good radar of the Pantsir + guns made it possible to intercept missiles coming your way.

Also, you’re not mentioning that quite a few maps back then had air border at ~15km or so. So planes were physically unable to get out of Pantsir effective range while that wasn’t the case for Su-34 vs ITO. I think that was only changed recently with Gaijin pushing airfield back patch after patch and the new AAs being added.

So yeah, saying the last time Soviet weren’t ahead since the MiG-23MLD when KH-38 were that dominant for more than a year in 2024-2025 is wild…