Su27 and f15 were released in the same update
We must of been playin different top tier mate, the KH38 was no more annoying than any other cas platform for ages.
gonna act like the F16C’s slinging 6 mavs off easily while dodging all SPAA wasn’t busted?
That isn’t true either , pantsir wasn’t a big threat unless you just flew in a straight line.
Folks like to completely ignore that man dont worry.
He means before it was added, NATO CAS back before the KH38 was added was largely dominant due to strong af pla
You act as if the Pantsir was some undodgeable missile slinger?
it was extremely easy to beat , possible even in harriers. So yeah the F16A even could and does out do it.
I know because it’s what I did xD
You realise the response to CAS is CAP, SPAA are a last line of defense against it.
Su34 was easy and is easy AF to shoot down it’s unbelieveably massive.
Gonna have to agree here, I used to use the GR7 when Pantsir was “OP meta” and they still struggled to hit me.
The Pantsir KD on stat shark was around 1.48 back just before these hyper strong SPAA were added, the IRIS T last I checked was near double what pantsir was, don’t see anyone complaining demanding it get nerfed?
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Ironic coming from someone incapable of getting a K/D above 1 in pretty much any of his ground vehicles.
DOUBLE time ironic since your stats in the GR7 are 18 deaths for 4 ground kills. Keep it up.
You say that but my overall GRB KD is literally 1.0 ? xD
As well as the fact ARB is 1.11 if you actually check in game it shows you that.
Most are now either near 1.0 or above it as well. Bar ones I haven’t touched in over 3 years xD
even for ARB its positive.
Or are you now going to tell me that stat shark is more accurate than WT?
I used it in ARB for the most part ? trying to get more on it? xD
I’ve only used it in a few GRB matches bud.
You also state to me about my KD when your own is roughly comparable, you are also on here chatting about vehicles you’ve never even used xD you’ve top tier in two nations man.
You’ve no idea where the stats come from ARB or GRB though? so how the hell can you claim the argument is trash?
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Really though, why feel the need to lie about this so blatantly when anybody can check your stats in game? You played the thing only 21 times, died 18 times in it, killed 5 planes, and destroyed 4 ground targets.
→ out of arguments
Stat checks ppl to deny their perfectly fine argument
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Guy is saying he could dodge the Pantsir easy in the GR7. That’s the basis of his argument. I checked his stats out of curiosity and low and behold, that was a pure lie. His argument was trash.
And yes, if the basis of one’s argument is to call skill issue, then they should expect to be judged on the same basis, that being their skill.
You again are choosing to ignore that a plane can be used in two types of battles unlike a tank.
if you look at the GR1A itll show that I have trash KD for air kills as I dont use it in ARB
EDIT also if we wanna look at the last month stats, I’m doing substantially better than yourself.
You’re also ignoring the fact in GRB there isn’t just Pantsir there xD
There are other planes too.
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Dude, do you take people for dumber than they are? You killed only 4 ground targets in the entire lifetime of you using the GR7. How can you build an argument of your experience fighting Pantsir in it when 4 kills can be done in a single game easy.
If you had 40 ground kill in the thing, okay, your ARB/GRB retort could make sense, but with only 4 ground kills, it doesn’t. Stop digging a deeper hole.
I have double your KD in most of my vehicles, going up to 2.5 in certain vehicles in which I did well, and ~3 for certain planes. Again, why lie so blatantly?
No it has more games and with a 30k LMUR research vs 560k 64E plus JAGM research it makes sense that there’s a lot more mi28s (for now)
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But does it actually have more games, I can see the RP point though.
It’s not digging a deeper hole xD I’m saying why it is the way it is.
If you wanna say that then batter in.
That isn’t possible xD you’ve got on stat shark 1.19 and I’ve 1.09.
You’ve also used less vehicles than I have so you’re making a pretty damn broad sweeping statement to say you’ve double my KD in most your vehicles.
The maths isn’t mathing bud.
I’ve even posted my stats, and yours.
So who’s the one lying? xD
this months stats show me having done better than you.
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Nice way to twist it, meaning players who are benefitting or using the broken thing do not cry about it being overpowered. Which is why not a single Russian main has ever come out and said. “Yes we agree the LMUR and Kh-38 are op as hell, hope you guys get something similar.”
Instead it’s “AGM 65 is just as good as the Kh-38, Kh-38 isn’t even that good, getting killed by Kh-38 is a skill issue.”…Blah blah blah And that is the problem in a nutshell players do not want to admit that in reality those 11 kills they have are from flying a helicopter and a jet where all they have had to do is click space bar a few times and requires no discernible skill.
Any Supersonic jet that carries a Kh-38 is still great despite the new SAMS
Yes other nations are as bad like when players try to justify the Falcon is not an OP tank killer…Gepard can do the same…
It does for September however those stats are of course useless since the 64E only got added in the last week of September and the MI28NM got played the entire month. So we’d have to wait for the October stats to be sure but with Russian helis being more popular than American ones in general, Russia and the us being similarly popular in top tier and the aforementioned insane RP gap i think it’s fair to say that for now the MI28 leads in popularity
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Again, you have only 4 ground kills in the damn thing. It’s not rocket science. It doesn’t matter whether you used it in ARB or GRB because in both case, you barely played the thing and did poorly all around in it. Even if you suddenly did a single perfect in it in GRB with 4 kills, how can you judge the plane performance against pantsir with a SINGLE game?
You and I both know your argument was bad and a lie.
I mostly played the Namer this month, to jump into the F-16I Sufa for easy kill and get large amount of points every game that way to farm the EFV. Thus, mostly got assists, not kills. Now, if you’re being honest and look at my global stats, you’ll quickly see this is exactly as I said compared to your global poor performance in your vehicles:
You’re the one who first brought skill issue, not me by the way.
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No ones twisting anything it’s quite literally what you said. You said that you do not mind it when it’s on your team, though when it’s on the opposing team you find it
No one does this, no one ever has nor ever will.
However there seems to be those that can objectively point out what is OP and what isn’t. As I stated above KA50 when it dropped actively destroyed a game mode, there is a Bias for premiums NOT for nations.
If you read the arguments it’s the fact the AGM65 is worse, but on better platforms.
What has that got to do with weapons being OP or not? have you tried to use a high BR helicopter?
I have the AH64 PATEN or whatever the old premium 11.3 was, its a headache to use unless you take ages to figure it out.
Not really Most jets, bar the aformentioned ones that I listed are absolutely hammer, with or without KH38T. The su30 is fine as it’s an actual decent platform, the Su34 is just too big and heavy to make them effective.
I’ve no idea what this even means.
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I think that the Strv 122A, 122B PLSS, 2A5 and 2A6 are also some of the only top tier MBTs to get their reload time nerfed due to their stomping after new power.
Usually it’s the other way around at top tier.
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Pretty okay stats, a little inconsistent though.
Yeah it’s nothing crazy really. And yeah they’re up and down cause I never wanted to bother grinding another tree to top tier. I prefer to have 1-2 trees with crew points, good lineup, and everything researched. Problem is that it left me at the mercy of the FOTM as you can imagine.
I had a K/D of 5 or so back when it was only M1 against T-64B, that number crashed during the time where Russia had the Tunguska + the Mi-35NM orbiting and farming entire teams.(That was just before USA received the ADATS). Only Germany had the Flakrak capable of shooting the Mi-35 down. So you had squads of RU players grouping up with GER players to force a matchup with no way to win for America.
Then it got better with the ADATS, and hell again during the release of the Ka-50 when you had swarms of it ripple firing their entire loadout to overwhelm your AA. There was also that time when RU helicopter could first spawn thermobaric rockets and immediately team wipe you out of spawn, leading to the RU team capping everything and spawn trapping you 1min in the game. That BS lasted for months and months too.
And so on. All of these K/Ds would probably be closer to 2/2.5 and a lot more consistent if I had more nations to jump on the meta train and avoid the pain train. I just play vehicles for fun nowadays anyway, even if they’re off meta like the Namer.
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You knew what I meant XD