Read again chief (still only 24mm away from best pen, basically negligible, especially compared to the 380 gang that isn’t Italy)
Ok i’ll do some factorisation, like in maths : The best firepower, with the best (pen + filler combination). Better ?
Its armor is +10mm to -35mm compared to Yamato, except you can angle it. It’s a monster of armor, no doubt on this
I haven’t playing 9.7 in a hot minute, but at top tier and 8.7 down, it’s all “I NEED KILLS GIVE ME THE KILLS” and they’ll use you as bait and never take a cap.
My wr in the T58 being at 78% is because I was making up 1/3 of the team.
T58 is either busted or AMX-13s victim, but why are you bringing it up all of a sudden ?
I mean hey, I too preferred that add missile carriers so I could sink you miles outside of your firing range, but gaijin insisted on balanced and dropped a SovetSky in my lap
It’s an example…? You know what an example is right?
Russia isn’t the only nation to have missile ships ? But sure i can’t wait for them either
Yes but how is it relevent to the discussion at hand ? There’s a T58 thread i think
Just going to leave these here, It’s an option by the way.
“Soldiers engage an unmanned aerial system (UAS) from an AH-64 with upgraded Hellfire missile”
“The Army is continuing to develop software enhancements to improve height-of-burst lethality”
Which is like a large majority of the playerbase of 11.0-12.7 at the moment, hence why they are forgiving.
Armor is the noob’s best friend against other noobs. If 2 equally unskilled players face eachotherin a T-80UE-1 vs Click Bait the player in the T-80UE-1 will likely win.
Click bait would likely win…? More pen, faster reload, better mobility etc.
Or if you have to do a splitsecond shot in a weakspot while T-Series can just shoot centermass?
I don’t suffer from that problem. I’m very good at aiming.
Good for you but we can agree that one is objectively harder than the other?.
Yes. I agree there.
One was designed to be a tiny hard to hit target. The other is almost 1/3 taller than the other.
Except that if both players are equally unskilled the Click bait has a decent chance to whiff on the T-80U weakspot while the T-80U can just aim center mass and have a 90% chance to either one shot kill or turret ring+engine the Abrams.
You say that the T-series are one tap, but the Abrams are also laughably easy to one tap. It takes a next level skill issue if it consistantly takes someone more than 1-2 shots to kill an Abrams, I would rate their survivability at a similar level as the T-series.
Wait why a T-80U vs an clickbait?
In either case, pretty sure the click bait’s M829a2 or 1 round can pierce the upper hull of the T-80
Survivability wise on an abrams depends on where you hit, it could be 2-3 shots to kill at worst, but a t series is most likely a one shot, purely due to how the model APFSDS bouncing magically off the floor plate of the T-series into the ammo / gunner / commander, making them artificially weakened due to a round piercing the lower plate 100mm RHa when sloped, somehow degrading an APFSDS so much it can’t blow through the 20mm floor plate anymore.
since we were talking about equally unskilled players I thought I’d use the T-80UE-1 and Click bait as examples as they are both premiums that new players can just buy off the bat.
You have to try really hard to get that scenario though or have situations where you blindly shoot through smoke, any self respecting player with good aim should be able to 1-2 shot kill the Abrams the overwhelming majority of the time.
Even if I take supposedly “bad shots” against an Abrams like shooting the LFP I very often still one shot it.
There’s been weird shots on the LFP and UFP I’ve had. I’m pretty sure the no damage glitch is still apparent in the abrams (on a rare occasion) if shooting the LFP in certain areas
alternate timeline: both whiff and barrel each other
This depends on more things than just armor.
He did mention about “unskilled players” so beside armor in his conversation.
