The test results are the same.
1-2 ° will not bring any changes.
and this will actually make the T80 chassis look smaller.
Hi, as a reminder please keep this civil, please do not put down / insult other members, and take any personal quarrels to PMs. Thank you.
It would be nice to see some improvements to the Soviet ground tree.
I will assume you talking about the T-80B, the T-72B and the T-90A
T-80B have, by far, the best velocity at it BR range if compared to other MBTs. It have much less weight still having a powerfull engine. Have a good round at 10.7, 3BM42 with 457mm at point blank and still very strong turret, better than the Leopard 2A4 turret, that can be penned by the same russian round.
At 10.3, the T-72B(1989) have armor good as the T-90A with less velocity and agility and still the same firepower of the T-80B.
At 10.0 you have the 2S25M, that have 3BM60, wich will shred everything you will encounter, and different from the 120S, it have a very good speed and agility, with good thermals on gunner’s and commanders sight.
0.3 BRs above you have the T-90A, that have CITV, good thermals, good speed, good armor and all top tier russian rounds, with 3BM60 and the 9M119M1 ATGM, and even a Laser Warning System.
T-72B armor wise is much better than Challenger series. It(Challenger) have more problems with breach damage than russian tanks have – words from a friend of many that plays with britain tanks. They have gigantic weakspots, as they themselves are gigantic targets. If you think the T-72B is slow, the 120S is much slower, being gigantic. Only it’s turret is well armored.
The T-80UD have the same hull and turret of the T-80U, having better speed than the T-72B. To this day T-80UD still fall against kpz-70, wich barely can get past it’s Kontakt-5 on the sides.
The MBTs at 10.3 and 10.7 can be kind of mid, I admit, but T-80BVM and the T-90M perform well, being almost on par with Type 10, and only behind – as everything else is – to the Stridvagn 122B+ and the Leopard 2A7V.
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No offense mate but you do tend to ONLY play the devil’s advocate, I don’t think I’ve seen one example where you comment to agree with someone, regardless of topic
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I’ve never in my life played Devil’s Advocate on War Thunder topics.
Though you did say you don’t use the forums much at all in the later half of your post.
Apparently me agreeing with most people and most takes hasn’t been seen by you, which can only mean you don’t read much of the forum.
Reading the forums and reading your posts on the forums is a different field, the latter of which I do not intend to do in my own free will.
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Well most of my posts are agreement and information gathering/incentivizing others to give consistently ruled information.
If doing so in a condescending and obnoxious manner is deemed acceptable nowadays then so be it, but I must inform you that most of your recent history has been arguing with people for little or no objective other than wasting their time (AKA trolling)
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@BalticSAS
I’ve never been condescending in War Thunder, ever.
If people are reading text in “a condescending way”, I cannot stop them from misreading my literal posts. I know I’ve misread a few posts myself, and that’s most of the time not their posts’ fault.
Also I’ve never trolled in my life and never will. I’ll continue to be non-provocative.
As for account posts starting arguments with me… I’m not them.
To avoid derailing this thread I will halt my criticism here, just know that your style of reply is not widely positive and tend to be in complete opposition of others’ opinion instead of providing useful or constructive criticism against.
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Russian tanks bad?
Lol. Lmfao.
If only.
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Although I don’t have top tier Russia, I have the swede-80 U. It’s decent? I will say my biggest complaint when compared to other MBTs is the gun handling and reverse. Apart from that I feel it’s mostly tradeoffs. armor/survivability wise you’ll take no damage from worse aimed shots but more from better aimed ones.
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He did not accuse mirage and you. Only you. LOL
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watch out guys we got general sartt of the 12th keyboard division of the american army pulling up the stat card!!!
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As someone who has top tier tanks in multiple nations the top tier Russian tanks have like the 3rd best armor in the game in turns of your change of not getting killed in the first shot behind the 2A7 and the strv 122, pretty much every other tank in most nations is an easy 1 shot, every tank in the game has a weak spot, what makes armor good is how hard that spot is to hit in a snapshot.
massive fucking skill issue
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youre acting as if rounds dont have any volume
you arent accurately hitting those small shots between the turret and hzll
Not really, all T-80/64 should have 6 sec reload rate according to cyclograms from manuals.
Russian tanks have great armour, until they dont. The T-80/90 tanks all die to a single shot to the lower front plate.
This makes brawling with them challenging.